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John Solomon (38)
Are you arguing that the Brumbies didn't score a lot of maul tries over several years?

Are you arguing that they didn't get that reputation? Whether or not the reputation is deserved or not doesn't really matter. It exists.

I'm not suggesting that the Brumbies deserve that reputation in 2021. I've saying that they gained that reputation and it is going to take a long time to shake.

The level of truth behind it now is irrelevant.

You know that saying about perception....
 

mst

Peter Johnson (47)
Are you arguing that the Brumbies didn't score a lot of maul tries over several years?

Are you arguing that they didn't get that reputation? Whether or not the reputation is deserved or not doesn't really matter. It exists.

I'm not suggesting that the Brumbies deserve that reputation in 2021. I've saying that they gained that reputation and it is going to take a long time to shake.

The level of truth behind it now is irrelevant.

Personally I am happy with the reputation as it holds the focus on one element which can be a distraction.

But I must admit I have mixed feeling about mauls. IMHO they have a place but need a lot of cleaning up and simplification of the rules rather than what they have deteriorated in to - a free form multi sided multi directional cluster which is hard to stop legally (why keep the game competitive? o_O ) and just a eye sore that mocks the laws. Binding is just touching, you can join from any back side; just not the front which is not always the leading side, any direction is straight ahead and players breaking off is still the same maul (WTF?).....:mad:...
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
players breaking off is still the same maul (WTF?)...:mad:.


Which is has been for years - my first foundation rugby course I got into an argument with the NSW ref's boss over it :)

The problem is if you changed that Law, then defenders would simply form the maul, then leave the maul, then join it again to cause offside, and nobody would use the maul ever again.

Change the laws to one hit of use-it-or-lose-it and the problem goes away. The maul wasn't greatly used in modern rugby until the 5 second restart came in.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
Which is has been for years - my first foundation rugby course I got into an argument with the NSW ref's boss over it :)

The problem is if you changed that Law, then defenders would simply form the maul, then leave the maul, then join it again to cause offside, and nobody would use the maul ever again.

Change the laws to one hit of use-it-or-lose-it and the problem goes away. The maul wasn't greatly used in modern rugby until the 5 second restart came in.

It should be as soon as the ref calls use it. The ball must be moved on. No 5 seconds to start it again. Good mailing teams should be able to maintain the momentum. I'd actually like to extend that to rucks as well. We get told that there will be stricter application of the use it or lose it law but we're still seeing 9s hold it up for 3-5 after the call. It should have to be immediate. Ref makes the call. Ball move straight away. If not short arm for opposing team.

Little tweaks like that will have positive effects on the flow of the game. Which is as important if not more than ball in play on my opinion.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
It should be as soon as the ref calls use it. The ball must be moved on. No 5 seconds to start it again. Good mailing teams should be able to maintain the momentum. I'd actually like to extend that to rucks as well. We get told that there will be stricter application of the use it or lose it law but we're still seeing 9s hold it up for 3-5 after the call. It should have to be immediate. Ref makes the call. Ball move straight away. If not short arm for opposing team.

Little tweaks like that will have positive effects on the flow of the game. Which is as important if not more than ball in play on my opinion.

Would be great for defending team, just wait for the ref to call use it and you don't need to check if 9 got ball, just be able to move up;) . I reckon even I would catch the 9 every now and then.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
Would be great for defending team, just wait for the ref to call use it and you don't need to check if 9 got ball, just be able to move up;) . I reckon even I would catch the 9 every now and then.

That's not what I'm saying and it's pretty clear at that. It's not like the defending teams are allowed to move until the ball is gathered by the 9. The same will apply here. Just instead of the ref calling use it and having the 9 take 5 sec to play on. They will have to actually use it. Defenders will still have to follow the laws.
 

John S

Chilla Wilson (44)
GAGR got a shout out from Sean Maloney on the Pick & Drive podcast - in a good way. Well done all.

(Figured it was from someone on the broadcast team so fits here)
 

formerflanker

Ken Catchpole (46)
Slightly off topic, but I have just watched "Chasing the sun", a documentary covering the Springbok's 2019 RWC win.
5 episodes of approx 45 mins each.

With unrestricted access to training sessions, change rooms, team meetings, tactical discussions by the coaching group, and players, the film makers have done a great job. Having a mike in the coaches' box during Tests was very interesting.

You see the aspects required to deliver a successful national rugby team as well as the technical and personal components. Never thought I'd see Rassie Erasmus tear up! As they say in the classics, the Springbok journey is compelling viewing.

(Link to this forum - Sean Maloney's match day commentary is used extensively in the clips of RWC games.)
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
Hey quick question fellas. The commentators are saying every game of club rugby live or is it meant to be one game every round. Surely stan will need ectra channels if it every game.
 

Adam84

Rod McCall (65)
Super Rugby AU 2021- Nine GEM
Averaging 81,800 on FTA
Highest figure was 97,000 in Rd 1(REDvTAH), and lowest figure was 65,000 Rd 5(REBvRED).

Super Rugby AU 2020 - Foxtel
Highest figure was 70,000 and lowest was 29,000, only 3 games cracked 60,000 all season.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
Super Rugby AU 2021- Nine GEM
Averaging 81,800 on FTA
Highest figure was 97,000 in Rd 1(REDvTAH), and lowest figure was 65,000 Rd 5(REBvRED).

Super Rugby AU 2020 - Foxtel
Highest figure was 70,000 and lowest was 29,000, only 3 games cracked 60,000 all season.

Will be really interested to see if there's a bump come TT time.
 

Set piece magic

John Solomon (38)
Don't forget Foxtel bleeds ratings every year so it's likely we would be even lower if we stayed. THe A League is regularly rating ~10,000 now, used to regularly do 30's and 40's on Fox
 

Adam84

Rod McCall (65)
Super Rugby Aotearoa was rating around 30,000 in 2020 on Foxtel, but i think the 'champions league' flavour of the Trans Tasman tournament will draw more people in.
 
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