Australian Test Matches 2012 onwards

[DPK]

I don't recall anyone seriously suggesting playing a Test match at Parramatta; Waratahs games, sure.

 

[waratahjesus]

I don't recall anyone seriously suggesting playing a Test match at Parramatta; Waratahs games, sure.

there was a thread not long ago, bout the sfs or something when people banged on about parramatta, cos playing a game in front of 20 thousand ten minutes away from homebush is growing it in a completely different market.

its happened about waratahs games to.

 

[EVERYFWDTHINKTHEYREA6OR7]

I remember when i was a kid NSW rugby used to give us free tickets to go to the game. Do they do that anymore?

 

[waratahjesus]

I remember when i was a kid NSW rugby used to give us free tickets to go to the game. Do they do that anymore?

If you play rugby, your allowed to go to the home bush games for free as a junior, they also have a day where they invite four clubs to depart of half time and free tickets for everyone at the sfs each year.

 

[Ruggo]

If you play rugby, your allowed to go to the home bush games for free as a junior, they also have a day where they invite four clubs to depart of half time and free tickets for everyone at the sfs each year.

That is a great initiative. I hope the round one clash between the Reds and the Tahs is a major goer for the Tahs this year. It has all the ingredients and I hope the Tahs marketing plays on the state rivalry. Even better if the Wallabies win the RWC and rugby is still on a high. Get in Early Tahs marketing and get the jump on the NRL.

Sorry for getting off topic

 

[EVERYFWDTHINKTHEYREA6OR7]

they also have a day where they invite four clubs to depart of half time and free tickets for everyone at the sfs each year.

Sorry i don't understand this sentence.

 

[waratahjesus]

Sorry i don't understand this sentence.

sorry, auto correct on fire. They invite a different four clubs each year, Jr clubs to take part in playing at half time and get free tickets to all sit down one end together, its a pretty good day, my club was involved a few years back, great fun.

 

[EVERYFWDTHINKTHEYREA6OR7]

sorry, auto correct on fire. They invite a different four clubs each year, Jr clubs to take part in playing at half time and get free tickets to all sit down one end together, its a pretty good day, my club was involved a few years back, great fun.

Given how 'full' the sfs was this year more needs to be done. They should do this every home match along with inviting juniors along for free every week.

 

[Melbourne Terrace]

OK so i live in Victoria and i went to the last Bledisloe here at the Jihad Stadium and tbh we can't say we deserve an NZ test match again for years after that disgrace. Australian supporters were completely outnumbered and out-supported on that night in what felt like a New Zealand home match. That's not to say the state should be banished into test match oblivion but we need to show we are again capable of putting on a good show in melbourne. Argentina at AAMI Park would have been perfect had the ARU in their infinite wisdom not decided that a drive down the road from Suncorp equated to spreading the game nationally. At this point i am satisfied with B&I Lions for 2013 as their even less common than world cups. I would even be fine with playing some of the lower ranked teams AS LONG AS IT"S PLAYED AT AAMI PARK (italy, Samoa even Japan could pack swan st). Playing a team at Etihad that is not England, NZ or RSA is a waste of time.

 

[Army_Gav]

OK so i live in Victoria and i went to the last Bledisloe here at the Jihad Stadium and tbh we can't say we deserve an NZ test match again for years after that disgrace. Australian supporters were completely outnumbered and out-supported on that night in what felt like a New Zealand home match. That's not to say the state should be banished into test match oblivion but we need to show we are again capable of putting on a good show in melbourne. Argentina at AAMI Park would have been perfect had the ARU in their infinite wisdom not decided that a drive down the road from Suncorp equated to spreading the game nationally. At this point i am satisfied with B&I Lions for 2013 as their even less common than world cups. I would even be fine with playing some of the lower ranked teams AS LONG AS IT"S PLAYED AT AAMI PARK (italy, Samoa even Japan could pack swan st). Playing a team at Etihad that is not England, NZ or RSA is a waste of time.

Exaggeration there a tad Chris. It was more like 50/50. I was at Suncorp in 08 and it wasn't much different in my opinion.

Its a fact there are a shite load of Kiwi expats here, and not a lot of Aussie expats in NZ.

You'll always harp on about AAMI Park, but it won't happen, unless it's a Lions tour match or Aussie Baa Baas.

Test matches at Etihad are better then no test matches at all.

 

[Melbourne Terrace]

Exaggeration there a tad Chris. It was more like 50/50. I was at Suncorp in 08 and it wasn't much different in my opinion.

Its a fact there are a shite load of Kiwi expats here, and not a lot of Aussie expats in NZ.

You'll always harp on about AAMI Park, but it won't happen, unless it's a Lions tour match or Aussie Baa Baas.

Test matches at Etihad are better then no test matches at all.

i might be exagerating but i was in the south end and was the only bloke in gold amongst a sea of darkness and it didn't look good at all. you cannot argue however that we were completely out supported from the start (not just after a flogging became apparent).

Yes i do harp on about aami park but seriously how often do we really crack 30,000 for non tri nations games in melbourne? Even in Sydney, they only got 20,000 to Samoa. I remember Italy getting a disappointing crowd at etihad and tbh couldn't see a team like scotland or Argentina popping 40,000 either. If the ARU can justify playing a 4 nations game at a 30,000 seat stadium down the road from Lang Park and losing 20,000 seats worth of revenue then they can sure as hell justify a game at aami park.

As for New Zealanders, they’re a godless people. The only thing they want more than the nuclear annihilation of Australia is to move here.

 

[Army_Gav]

Yes i do harp on about aami park but seriously how often do we really crack 30,000 for non tri nations games in melbourne? Even in Sydney, they only got 20,000 to Samoa. I remember Italy getting a disappointing crowd at etihad and tbh couldn't see a team like scotland or Argentina popping 40,000 either. If the ARU can justify playing a 4 nations game at a 30,000 seat stadium down the road from Lang Park and losing 20,000 seats worth of revenue then they can sure as hell justify a game at aami park.

As for New Zealanders, they’re a godless people. The only thing they want more than the nuclear annihilation of Australia is to move here.

Always get 40+ with Ireland, England etc. Italy don't even get big crowds at home.

ARU have justified GC due to the cash QLD threw at them.

 

[grievous]

Most things grow up- to take an example: Adelaide rugby is woeful and tiny. 8 clubs I believe: and dont give me the population excuse because they have 2 AFL teams!
If you think you can grow the game by staging test matches then the test matches have to be billable as the pinnacle of rugby. From a marketing perspective that narrows the potential to, pretty much, the ABs because none of the home unions can be trusted to bring their number 1 players, France are a variable proposition dependibg on imponderables and Seth efrika may or may not bring their best team.
Marketing the all blacks anywhere is easy: "the best team in the world for 3 years and 364 days out of every 4 years".


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What do you mean woeful? What chance has it ever been given from the ARU? Its all local effort. There are actually 12 clubs and junior growth has been impressive. Several players have gone to eastern states to higher honors and the Reds have just signed a very promising SA junior to their squad.
2AFL clubs, what about Melbourne, they have 8. Regular games do grow the game just as the 7s have over the last 5 years.
Typical attitude, let it die and wither because its not the eastern states, how arrogant, a job awaits in the ARU

 

[Inside Shoulder]

What do you mean woeful? What chance has it ever been given from the ARU? Its all local effort. There are actually 12 clubs and junior growth has been impressive. Several players have gone to eastern states to higher honors and the Reds have just signed a very promising SA junior to their squad.
2AFL clubs, what about Melbourne, they have 8. Regular games do grow the game just as the 7s have over the last 5 years.
Typical attitude, let it die and wither because its not the eastern states, how arrogant, a job awaits in the ARU

I've seen it played and I stand by my assessment.
The question is one of getting bang for buck and adelaide offers little. There's money and expats in Melbourne and it's, what, 3 or 4 times the size of Adelaide, I mean it's actually a city and not a town trying to be one.
Let me assure you club and juniors in Sydney is all local effort so that's no point of difference.


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[grievous]

I've seen it played and I stand by my assessment.
The question is one of getting bang for buck and adelaide offers little. There's money and expats in Melbourne and it's, what, 3 or 4 times the size of Adelaide, I mean it's actually a city and not a town trying to be one.
Let me assure you club and juniors in Sydney is all local effort so that's no point of difference.


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Town trying to be one...Oh its an anti Adelaide thing, you saw a game there once...Sydney is supposed to be the rugby heartland...you wear patches on your elbows right?

 

[Melbourne Terrace]

Adelaide is the closest you could get to a rugby black hole and already does badly with Socceroos and NRL matches that are played there (both have disappointing attendances and dead quiet crowds), imagine how poor a Union crowd could be? I think with Adelaide it's less of a case of just let it die and wither, to more of a it's a lost cause status. Other future markets such as Gold Cost, Perth and Melbourne do offer much more than Adelaide in terms of potential revenue, attendances and exposure. That said, as much as i don't want to see a wallabies game wasted there i see the SA Government throwing stupid amounts of cash (like they have already said they would) at it to justify the cost of the fancy new Stadium at Adelaide Oval.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

I don't recall anyone seriously suggesting playing a Test match at Parramatta; Waratahs games, sure.

I would seriously look at a Test match out of Parramatta. Against the likes of Tonga and Samoa you'd likely fill it a couple of times over.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Town trying to be one...Oh its an anti Adelaide thing, you saw a game there once...Sydney is supposed to be the rugby heartland...you wear patches on your elbows right?

No I dont but thats pretty good coming from a supporter of the gay gordons. One game that was a grand final.
I'm not anti adelaide at all: its got some excellent restaurants and many of Sydney's best chefs come out of there.
I think unfortunately Grievous is right it is a blackhole for rugby: I would love to see rugby as the only winter sport played everywhere in Australia, hell the world, but there aren't enough quality tests to go trying to woo a city that just isn't interested in rugby. Melbourne has always been interested - christ they played it before they invented aerial ping pong - the schools play it. Its viable.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Wolring class rugger, they played just such a game there as a RWC qualifier.....prior to 1999 RWC I think: you could pick you seat as i recall.

 

[grievous]

Adelaide is the closest you could get to a rugby black hole and already does badly with Socceroos and NRL matches that are played there (both have disappointing attendances and dead quiet crowds), imagine how poor a Union crowd could be? I think with Adelaide it's less of a case of just let it die and wither, to more of a it's a lost cause status. Other future markets such as Gold Cost, Perth and Melbourne do offer much more than Adelaide in terms of potential revenue, attendances and exposure. That said, as much as i don't want to see a wallabies game wasted there i see the SA Government throwing stupid amounts of cash (like they have already said they would) at it to justify the cost of the fancy new Stadium at Adelaide Oval.

You dont just insert a foreign sport and hey presto, 50000 people turn up, how can it be a lost cause when it hasnt had a test? 20,000 turned up to an Aussie A game against Fiji, 7s has done OK and you obviously werent there during the WC when its potential wasnt shown, Melbourne needs to concentrafte on getting rugby crowds back because its been pretty poor by years gone by standards, lests see if the Rebels sustain their following