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Michael Lynagh (62)
Gees BH you have changed your tune - not long ago you saying we would be crazy to leave Super Rugby - now at least you seem to be accepting reality that we need to replace it.
I'm not sure how you fix Australian Rugby's structure and I'm not at all convinced that anything much changes even if you change all the people at each level.
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I have consistently said that a Trans Tasman comp is desirable.Gees BH you have changed your tune - not long ago you saying we would be crazy to leave Super Rugby - now at least you seem to be accepting reality that we need to replace it.
That sort of figure is just the ARU's "over budget" number. The number to be looking at is bigger - their overall Supe expenditure encompassing all grants, expenses and bailouts etc. Weighed against the income generated it has been a loss leader from day dot (and sure, this is not the full Soup picture as each team also has their incomings and outgoings).Super Rugby is losing the ARU an average of maybe $5m a year bailing out teams?
We need to replace it but I don't think it is easy.
They have tried to move towards doing this several times over the past few years and the State RUs, especially the 2 largest, will not have a bar of it.Change is only possible if the structure is changed and democratic accountability is reintroduced.
As per the RFU and FFR models, clubs affiliate directly to the governning body - state RUs go completely.
There's no perfect system, but the one we have now is a travesty.
They have tried to move towards doing this several times over the past few years and the State RUs, especially the 2 largest, will not have a bar of it.
I agree it absolutely needs to happen but how? I cannot see it being done.
Centralise the common functions of the super franchises.I'm not sure how you fix Australian Rugby's structure and I'm not at all convinced that anything much changes even if you change all the people at each level.
Let's start with the NSWRU. Why would anyone there not think that the Shute Shield with all its history is important and that with our large participation base we are important to Australian Rugby and deserve a greater say at national level than most states with far fewer players.
At the ARU, what changes? It becomes pretty obvious pretty fast that the only thing that generates significant income for the game is the Wallabies. You rightly make decisions to try and maximise it.
Behind that you need a good number of professional players. Super Rugby is far from perfect but the money needed to do something different is massive and would need huge external investment for a significant time.
You would decide that you need to trim expenditure on players. How easy is it to lower the percentage by a couple in the next CBA? Probably very but you'd need to try it. How many players do you lose if you do manage to lower it and then pay everyone less?
We've got huge issues but I'm just not convinced anyone would do anything drastically different at any level of the hierarchy.
If you put Papworth in charge of the ARU I can't imagine he would suddenly find a way to spend millions more on the grassroots.
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That's the nub of the problem. It will be very difficult. It's why I think that almost total collapse is the best hope.
@Quickhands, was that you I saw in the clip with the Marlins T shirt?Pulver still doesn't get it. Thank heavens for people like Brett Papworth.
@Quickhands, was that you I saw in the clip with the Marlins T shirt?
Santa clause beard near the end.
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I get that, but if the ARU collapses, but the state unions stumble along and survive, which they probably will, and a new national body arises, we still have the road blocks in place.
We need dragons.
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NSWRU has had to be bailed out twice (at least) in the last 20 years or so. Wouldn't surprise me if they were on the cusp of the third strike. They all need to be allowed to go broke (which given the level of governance will happen).
The Pro14 is looking to expand, possibly to rival the English premiership and the Top 14. Perhaps the remaining SA Super Rugby teams could play in that competition, and the AUS and NZ Super Rugby teams play in a trans-Tasman competition.
The Pro14 is looking to expand, possibly to rival the English premiership and the Top 14. Perhaps the remaining SA Super Rugby teams could play in that competition, and the AUS and NZ Super Rugby teams play in a trans-Tasman competition.