Australian Rugby / RA

[Rugbynutter39]

9/10

8/10

They land a broadcast deal with nine / Stan for at least same offer of Foxtel I give them a 9 - get better money then Foxtel offer i give them a 10

 

[Adam84]

Ok boys I will ask it it in here, give a score on how you think Hamish and Clarke have done with their job so far. I know it been hard with covid etc, but have they delivered what the said (and Covid was here after they said it) ie; a super comp going forward, and tv deal (so money to support game).
I will say now I was a huge fan of Haimsh when I first saw him talk on TV, but am concerned (and have said) he maybe a very good public relations man, and talks a big game, but he needs some kind of results, especially now.

They’ve done bloody brilliantly, any weaker administration would have caved to the NZRU and Australia Rugby would implode with infighting over the culling of another super rugby team or two.

They organised a OZ Super Rugby tournament across multiple border restrictions, which culminated in a cracking final series, and amazingly no cancelled games. They’ve secured $8.8million in federal government support for the 2027 RWC bid. They secured the hosting rights of the Tri-Nations by negotiating strong financial support from the stage governments.

And finally, RA to announce a new contract with 9 and Stan which will see Super Rugby on FTA for the first time in 20 years, unless Foxtel throw in a late bid increasing the value of their bid, which would include Super Rugby games free on Kayo.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-...-broadcast-rights-reveal-20201026-p568qw.html

 

[Dan54]

They’ve done bloody brilliantly, any weaker administration would have caved to the NZRU and Australia Rugby would implode with infighting over the culling of another super rugby team or two.

They organised a OZ Super Rugby tournament across multiple border restrictions, which culminated in a cracking final series, and amazingly no cancelled games. They’ve secured $8.8million in federal government support for the 2027 RWC bid. They secured the hosting rights of the Tri-Nations by negotiating strong financial support from the stage governments.

And finally, RA to announce a new contract with 9 and Stan which will see Super Rugby on FTA for the first time in 20 years, unless Foxtel throw in a late bid increasing the value of their bid, which would include Super Rugby games free on Kayo.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-...-broadcast-rights-reveal-20201026-p568qw.html

Good to see they got you onside , I personally believe they probably did right, playing public relations game and get people on their side. I would be more impressed if they had told us what comps they have planned going forward, you know the one Hamish said we would get on Sept 4th, and had TV deal set up, but with Covid I can understand the problem and think if 9 deal does eventually go through will be good if we got free to air games. I think perhaps we have a fairly low bar set up to now so it is probably going to be an improvement.
By the way I hope for all our sakes that Aus do keep 5 teams going forward, that's what worries me most, as for all the tough talk early it has certainly quietened off lately. Will Twiggy keep paying for Force without them getting a cut of TV money etc etc?

 

[Ignoto]

The amount of money Twiggy spends on the Force is like you and I buying a big issue every now and then. Similar to the oil barons who own EPL teams, it's a hobby and not something they're looking for an investment back from.

With the recent signings that have happened in the last two months, there's obviously something going on behind the scenes were not privy to.

 

[Rob42]

I'm giving Clarke and McLennan a solid 8/10 as well, at this point. Of course, they're benefiting from much that Raelene put in place before she was shafted. But, for better or worse, they're playing the PR game much better than she did.

 

[wamberal]

I'm giving Clarke and McLennan a solid 8/10 as well, at this point. Of course, they're benefiting from much that Raelene put in place before she was shafted. But, for better or worse, they're playing the PR game much better than she did.

Errr. It does help a bit that they are white males.

 

[Adam84]

RA have reduced annual expenditure by $30million under Mclennan
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...e/news-story/4d3a11f1ffaa0b6847b6ebf8a54c0882

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Yeah 8/10 for me and a solid 9 if they can secure a reasonable broadcast deal.

 

[formerflanker]

From Adam's link to the Oz:

The Rugby Australia 2019 annual report shows the organisation made a loss and spent nearly $120m last year, including $19m on corporate expenses with only $4.3m spent on community rugby.
It was Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan who signed up renowned “chainsaw” Adam Foulsham to initially slash $15m off the books, but the newly appointed chief operating officer has saved the organisation double that.

 

[Pfitzy]

only $4.3m spent on community rugby.

Does that count the money they GET from Community Rugby via the "Participation Fee"?

 

[Rob42]

Raelene Castle will head up Sport NZ. Apparently Phil Kearns unavailable.

https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/30252785/raelene-castle-appointed-ceo-sport-nz

 

[Boof1050]

From Adam's link to the Oz:

The Rugby Australia 2019 annual report shows the organisation made a loss and spent nearly $120m last year, including $19m on corporate expenses with only $4.3m spent on community rugby.
It was Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan who signed up renowned “chainsaw” Adam Foulsham to initially slash $15m off the books, but the newly appointed chief operating officer has saved the organisation double that.

And as per usual Cameron Clyne weasels off into the sunset after causing yet more chaos in an organisation!!

 

[Braveheart81]

From Adam's link to the Oz:

The Rugby Australia 2019 annual report shows the organisation made a loss and spent nearly $120m last year, including $19m on corporate expenses with only $4.3m spent on community rugby.
It was Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan who signed up renowned “chainsaw” Adam Foulsham to initially slash $15m off the books, but the newly appointed chief operating officer has saved the organisation double that.

Corporate expenses were $10m. Not sure where the $19m comes from but must include some other line items.

In addition to the $4.3m on community rugby there were $4m in grants to the state unions which is meant to flow down to similar things (given a lot of community rugby has nothing to do with RA).

 

[Braveheart81]

RA have reduced annual expenditure by $30million under Mclennan
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...e/news-story/4d3a11f1ffaa0b6847b6ebf8a54c0882

I haven't read the article but I wonder how much of that is reduced player salaries due to COVID and that several costly things such as 7s and under 20s haven't happened this year?

We also didn't host 3 home tests in the middle of the year that we normally would so marketing and matchday costs would be way down too.

 

[Rebels3]

Some interesting stats in Wayne Smiths most recent article.

Since 2000 believe it or not the All Blacks worst winning percentage is against the Wallabies. South Africa have marginally the highest winning percentage but the ABs and Wallabies have had a few draws which means the wallabies are the opponent NZ has had most issues beating.

We have also won 66% of all other matches, maybe there is something to playing NZ too often?

 

[Dan54]

Some interesting stats in Wayne Smiths most recent article.

Since 2000 believe it or not the All Blacks worst winning percentage is against the Wallabies. South Africa have marginally the highest winning percentage but the ABs and Wallabies have had a few draws which means the wallabies are the opponent NZ has had most issues beating.

We have also won 66% of all other matches, maybe there is something to playing NZ too often?

And I don't find that all that surprising, especially if you look at early 00s, Wallabies were a very very good team with some superb players!

 

[Dan54]

Was watching a tv program the other night, Grant Nisbett and Justin Marshall are doing these interest bits on the test from Aus and on Aus rugby, they were at Kearnsie's place talking to him and the discussion went to RA and money etc, Twiggy came up in conversation and if RA could take some advantage of his money, Kearns seemed to hint that maybe they were a bit worried about what came with the money. He didn't in anyway say what the problem was, and I not sure how much knowledge he has, but was interesting I thought.

 

[formerflanker]

Was watching a tv program the other night, Grant Nisbett and Justin Marshall are doing these interest bits on the test from Aus and on Aus rugby, they were at Kearnsie's place talking to him and the discussion went to RA and money etc, Twiggy came up in conversation and if RA could take some advantage of his money, Kearns seemed to hint that maybe they were a bit worried about what came with the money. He didn't in anyway say what the problem was, and I not sure how much knowledge he has, but was interesting I thought.

The expectations of donors is an issue especially if private equity ownership of RA becomes a fact in NZ and Australia.
The question you raise will have to be addressed - what is the quid pro quo?

 

[wamberal]

The expectations of donors is an issue especially if private equity ownership of RA becomes a fact in NZ and Australia.
The question you raise will have to be addressed - what is the quid pro quo?

They give RA their quids, and rugby survives as a pro sport. /quo

 

[Dan54]

The expectations of donors is an issue especially if private equity ownership of RA becomes a fact in NZ and Australia.
The question you raise will have to be addressed - what is the quid pro quo?

Yep suspect everyone has to be careful I suppose as noone gets to be a multi billionaire by throwing money around. Think both NZR and RA will be treading carefully , same with the likes of CVC owning the rights to the comps, they need to keep control.