Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Yep so may rule any of them out. Why does your CEO have to be a former Wallaby anyway?
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Yep so may rule any of them out. Why does your CEO have to be a former Wallaby anyway?
John S
Chilla Wilson (44)
I've no idea why - maybe it's the Old Boys club in the car park popping up again
I don't think anyone, other than MArto, is suggesting. My comment was in relation to the statement made about not trusting someone who signed with a 'rebel league' back in 1995.
Finsbury Girl
Trevor Allan (34)
Not all of them. And not all of them were actively recruiting in secret.
Anyways that's off topic.
Back on topic: Pitchforks out for Cam Clown and Castle for starters.
Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
I understand why Cam should be stood down. But, what about our failed RWC campaign is Raelene's fault? Is it that Izzy wasn't able to be picked? Or was it that Chieka should have been able to pick overseas players?
It's a genuine question for anyone calling for Ralene's head. What didn't she do that Kearns would have done?
Finsbury Girl
Trevor Allan (34)
^ the debacle of RWC was just the icing on the cake.
The ship is rudderless.
The ship is rudderless.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
One might argue that since Castle's tenure, the future of Australian rugby has not looked better with success in the U20 and Schoolboy teams that have not been seen for a loooong time.
Tex
Greg Davis (50)
I think we should judge Raelene in a few years time as Pulver's muddle-headed legacy gets washed out of the sheets. She's been dealing with inherited problems and for the main part, she seems to be doing pretty well.
Let's see if she's got the goods now that the Cheika era is over and she can form some more productive structures.
Let's see if she's got the goods now that the Cheika era is over and she can form some more productive structures.
Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
I'm afraid that's not good enough. What would Kearns who was the only other candidate have done that she hasn't done? Specifically....
Finsbury Girl
Trevor Allan (34)
Correlation is not causation.
The foundations for these were laid down long before her tenure.
@ Ignoto ; not sacking Cheika, handling of Folau, lack of effort or investment in the NRC just off the top of my head. I'm sure there'd be loads more.
Pls quote where I have advocated Phil Kearns?
Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
If we sacked Cheika in 2018 and paid him out, who would you hire instead?
I'll give you Folau's handling.
This NRC season would be Ralene's second rendition. What cash is available for RA to invest and why is it solely up to her?
Phil Kearns was the only other candidate at the time from memory.
Finsbury Girl
Trevor Allan (34)
ForceFan
Peter Fenwicke (45)
RR, you and others, keep saying this but it is untrue.
The following is from the evidence provided by John Welborn to the Senate Committee hearing in Perth on 11 October 2017:
“As far as I could gather, the key element that was driving the imperative nature of the ARU's decision and the negative and somewhat bleak position that they found themselves in, both individually and collectively, was a financial imperative related to the solvency of the game, and the obvious presentation that there was an easy solution to that in terms of a new funding provider was certainly not taken up with any enthusiasm. I was very keen on engaging people to fly across to Perth; I thought it was justified that they have a meeting. Ultimately, that meeting took place in Adelaide. There was direct contact by intermediaries between Andrew Forrest and Minderoo and the ARU. That meeting was in fact to arrive at a solution which would see the retention of the Western Force, and that solution involved a significant capital commitment. The question I had been asking was: what would be required for the ARU to make a decision to retain the Western Force.
That was eventually developed into a very clear guideline that had the following terms—this is before the meeting took place in Adelaide on 22 August and followed the rally we had here in Perth on 20 August.
Those terms were:
1. that the Western Force would receive equal funding from the ARU, along with the four other Australian rugby sides, and
2. that Andrew Forrest and Minderoo would underwrite the Western Force for the remaining three years of the existing broadcasting contract and for a further five years beyond that in terms of the extension option within that broadcasting deal and would confirm that the Western Force and Rugby WA would be in a no-loss position.
3. Further, Andrew Forrest and Minderoo would provide funding for grassroots rugby to the tune of $6 million a year for the similar term of eight years, for a total of $48 million.
4. There was also a discussion of compensation for SANZAAR for an additional one-off cost of the expansion, effectively, of the competition from 15 to 16 teams to incorporate the retention of the Western Force—so there was no view that they were going to change the decision in relation to retention of any of the other sides—and that was an additional component of $20 million.
And if one to four above were accepted, the ARU board would all resign, to be replaced by a new board along with a new CEO.”
Note: Bolding and underlining my own.
That looks like a very clear $68 Million for the retention of the Western Force in Super Rugby.
Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
Interesting to see the fall out shit show between Castle and Cheika get written up by Georgina.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-...d-clash-at-tokyo-embassy-20191023-p533jz.html
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-...d-clash-at-tokyo-embassy-20191023-p533jz.html
ForceFan
Peter Fenwicke (45)
No . VIctoria did not support the shrink to greatness plan . Victoria called an emergency meeting to stop it from happening but only Victoria and Rupa voted against it. All other states - including WA - voted to shrink to greatness
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The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
That was Stookey wasn't it?
ForceFan
Peter Fenwicke (45)
Yes, Geoff Stooke who resigned after the removal of the Western Force from Super Rugby .
Kenny Powers
Ron Walden (29)
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Raelene's insistence on pursuing legal action to get rid of Folau should never be forgotten.
Longer negotiations, offering a partial walk-back, "agreeing to disagree" - all tactics she didn't employ and she needs to be judged on the schism her stand on inclusiveness incurred.
Longer negotiations, offering a partial walk-back, "agreeing to disagree" - all tactics she didn't employ and she needs to be judged on the schism her stand on inclusiveness incurred.