Australian Rugby / RA

[Slim 293]

Slim nobody leaves good news unpublished, that's the point. Increasing crowd numbers good, falling crowd numbers bad its no more complex than that.

Crowd numbers have been in sharp decline since JON was in charge.........

Slim, a lot things haven't been published in relation to Australian Rugby, including KPMG's report into where all the money went to at the Brumbies from the sale of their headquarters from some years ago. And so you don't have to go to the trouble of pointing out the obvious I acknowledge this predates Raelene Castles tenure.

Wasn't going to pass up the opportunity to raise that again.

 

[Show-n-go]

Bit reminiscent of this mornings game

 

[Derpus]

Can we leave the inane bitching in the 'where to for super rugby' thread?

 

[Slim 293]

Bit reminiscent of this mornings game

I'm blaming it on Castle.........

 

[dru]

Can we leave the inane bitching in the 'where to for super rugby' thread?

This thread is the merging of two, one of which was very much wtf are ARU doing?

You want an homogenised good news on RA thread then start it.

 

[cyclopath]

I think you are missing the point

- bringing Andrew Forrest into the tent, had 18 months to make progress on that. Sins of the past are not preventing here from doing that.
- weight & height issues for junior rugby could change, review, nothing in the past is lead in the saddlebags on that one
- broadcasting school rugby a poor negotiating tactic when you potential partner finds out about this thru the media
- the contract issue in the media happened entirely under her watch
- crowd figures granted sins of the past impact here, but they are getting worse, the slide has not stopped


Also they shouldn't go too hard on people contributing money to Israel Folau (which is not tax deductible).

Rugby's star system came under scrutiny recently when Fairfax rugby writer and Offsiders panellist Georgina Robinson revealed high-profile players were being paid partly through the Australian Rugby Foundation (ARF), which allowed businesses to make private tax refundable contributions to player salaries.
RA robustly defended this practice, which it claimed was commonplace across Australian sport, although the ARF payments are markedly different than the NRL's third-party agreements, which are (at least notionally) transparent promotional deals that don't raise questions about unseen access and influence.

No, I disagree with your point.
I don't believe Andrew Forrest is going to "save" Australian rugby, nor was he ever. He had an agenda with the Force, and fair play to him, but the oft repeated $50 million "offer" was highly conditional, and why would a national body accept those terms. It was a big gesture, a popular gesture, but he knew that there was almost no chance that he would have had to follow through on it.
GRR so far has been somewhat underwhelming.
Most of the other issues have existed for years, and are endemic within Australian rugby. Expecting seismic changes in the time she has been there on most of those is laughable. Especially given the parlous financial state of things.
The Folau issue is of his making, and his alone. If he abides by some simple conditions, it's a non-issue.
All of this IMO.

 

[Quick Hands]

This thread is the merging of two, one of which was very much wtf are ARU doing?

You want an homogenised good news on RA thread then start it.

One of the things which has landed Australian rugby in its current predicament is the desire for homogenised good news, often delivered by compliant journalists who are essentially an extension of the ARU/RA public relations process.

The pathetic irony of Clyne's comments today gave me plenty to chuckle about, as does Castle's continued reference to a former employee working with a PR firm. As if RA don't.

 

[Dan54]

No, I disagree with your point.
I don't believe Andrew Forrest is going to "save" Australian rugby, nor was he ever. He had an agenda with the Force, and fair play to him, but the oft repeated $50 million "offer" was highly conditional, and why would a national body accept those terms. It was a big gesture, a popular gesture, but he knew that there was almost no chance that he would have had to follow through on it.
GRR so far has been somewhat underwhelming.
Most of the other issues have existed for years, and are endemic within Australian rugby. Expecting seismic changes in the time she has been there on most of those is laughable. Especially given the parlous financial state of things.
The Folau issue is of his making, and his alone. If he abides by some simple conditions, it's a non-issue.
All of this IMO.

And here is probably one of the most sensible posts I have read on this thread. Cheers Cyclo,so glad we can have some common sense written here at times.

 

[Rebels3]

Not sure which thread is appropriate for this, but an optimistic read from Rugby Pass on Super Rugby u23 squads.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-under-23-squads-which-franchises-future-is-the-brightest

Reds look stacked, Rebels and Brums have some promising talent and the Tahs a little thin. But on saying that you only need 2/3 genuine players from a crop to make a real difference.

 

[RugbyReg]

Not sure which thread is appropriate for this, but an optimistic read from Rugby Pass on Super Rugby u23 squads.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-under-23-squads-which-franchises-future-is-the-brightest

Reds look stacked, Rebels and Brums have some promising talent and the Tahs a little thin. But on saying that you only need 2/3 genuine players from a crop to make a real difference.

who the hell is Daniel Boardman he's picked in the QLD team? Never heard of him.

Put McNamara at fullback and Lucas at 12 (or swap with Stewart at 10) and then someone like Will Eaddie on the wing.

 

[Tex]

Genuinely surprised that Isi Naisarani is U23

 

[Braveheart81]

Genuinely surprised that Isi Naisarani is U23

He would be too.

He's 24.

 

[Tex]

Christ BH, there are some details you can let slide to the keeper from time to time!

 

[RugbyReg]

Genuinely surprised that Isi Naisarani is U23

the O23 next to his name signifies that he's over 23. THe explanation is they didn't have anyone else to pick.

 

[Derpus]

He would be too.

He's 24.

It's exciting that he's only 24. Very exciting indeed.

 

[Rebels3]

It's exciting that he's only 24. Very exciting indeed.

I have been shaking my head all week with some of the so called Fox Sports experts not selecting him in their wallabies squads. Sometimes I wonder if I watch the same game, or are they clouded that much with bias or am I the one with the bias?

 

[formerflanker]

I have been shaking my head all week with some of the so called Fox Sports experts not selecting him in their wallabies squads. Sometimes I wonder if I watch the same game, or are they clouded that much with bias or am I the one with the bias?

Very good question. I'd go for bias/blinkered views of many Fox commentators.

 

[I like to watch]

Or the analytical quality of said commentators ....

 

[cyclopath]

Or the analytical quality of said commentators ..

Considering how many of them were blathering on about Quade's great play in latter games, which, by any detached analysis, was pretty mediocre, I'm not surprised in some of their selections. Some of them saw some early season games, when he was genuinely quite good, and parked it there. It doesn't really show a critical eye.

 

[Quick Hands]

Or the analytical quality of said commentators ..

I think you have it.

Clark will be joined in commentary by Horan, Martin, Kafer, Hoiles, Mitchell and Gregan