Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
Some good target in there
Australian Rugby / RA
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Some good target in there
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
That's across all teams in gold - so likely combined win rate for Wallabies, Wallaroos, and the 7s teams (possibly age grade teams too). The page of the report detailing it even has a picture of Madi Levi on it:
PhilClinton
Mark Loane (55)
I have a couple of mates who've done the Level 3 coaching program and it sounds more like a compliance exercise than actual criteria to be building stronger coaches.
Not sure if the process has changed over the past few years but the semi-intensive practical element followed by the theory/written element doesn't seem overly effective.
Wouldn't it be better to have the entire program unfold over the course of 6 to 12 months and actually upskill across a variety of targeted areas?
If a Level 3 coach is supposed to be the equivalent of a Masters/Doctorate why not actually make the study/practical elements take time to properly develop the key skills. People can't go off and do an MBA over a weekend.
Not sure if the process has changed over the past few years but the semi-intensive practical element followed by the theory/written element doesn't seem overly effective.
Wouldn't it be better to have the entire program unfold over the course of 6 to 12 months and actually upskill across a variety of targeted areas?
If a Level 3 coach is supposed to be the equivalent of a Masters/Doctorate why not actually make the study/practical elements take time to properly develop the key skills. People can't go off and do an MBA over a weekend.
Level 2 (now, community coach) consisted of a 2-day course, 60-hour coaching diary, and a mentoring program. Mine was spread over 18 months, mainly because I couldn't line up a time with my mentor.
It's part compliance, but I did learn a lot from my course. One of my old blindspots was I said "I" too much when giving instruction - fixed that
Also reaffirmed my belief to cut out the chat before a training drill and just got straight into it. No one volunteers their time to hear any coach waffle on for 10min before a drill.
It's part compliance, but I did learn a lot from my course. One of my old blindspots was I said "I" too much when giving instruction - fixed that
Also reaffirmed my belief to cut out the chat before a training drill and just got straight into it. No one volunteers their time to hear any coach waffle on for 10min before a drill.
Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
Ah, that old chestnut.
My wife has the opposite problem, too much "we" when she means "you"......
Mick The Munch
Vay Wilson (31)
What you describe is what the RFU have done so the CEO can get his bonus - Mens had a 57% win rate, Womens 98% - the aggregate was 75% meant Bonuses were paid - worth a watch -
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
Not quite. Aside from a number of other cases of fuzzy accounting on targets, the RFU altered the terms after the fact, and specifically excluded top flight games in New Zealand for "reasons". It's also heavily influenced by the dominance of the Red Roses, something which wouldn't be relevant to us. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with targeting a combined winning rate across the representative teams (though I would prefer them to have individual team winning rates listed as well).
Executive bonuses are another story, but it's worth noting that 60% Sweeney's bonus was tied to financial targets, rather than on field factors (they didn't actually meet those targets but gave it all to him anyway lol). Again though, the problem there isn't the targets, it's pretty clearly the creative accounting around them and bonuses.
PhilClinton
Mark Loane (55)
This might be the unpopular opinion, but the articles I'm reading about RA being super keen to keep Schmidt and are considering 'getting creative' with his tenure by potentially allowing extra leave periods to be with family, seems to be the wrong thing to do. The only situation I can see happening is a head coach of the national team having more time away that is going to end up with decreased results and disconnection between him and the players.
I understand his family situation (well at least what has been revealed in the media) and I think if his family is the priority, let him worry about that and transition away from Wallabies coach. We all knew that might be the case and if his family needs are outweighing his need to coach the Wallabies, such is life.
It will only hurt is own reputation as well if they give him all these extra allowances and the Wallabies start to tank.
I understand his family situation (well at least what has been revealed in the media) and I think if his family is the priority, let him worry about that and transition away from Wallabies coach. We all knew that might be the case and if his family needs are outweighing his need to coach the Wallabies, such is life.
It will only hurt is own reputation as well if they give him all these extra allowances and the Wallabies start to tank.
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
Will make a lot of workaholic highly paid HCs a bit nervous if the Wallaby's results continue to improve though
Dctarget
Tim Horan (67)
I understand what you mean, but HC of a national team is a pretty weird role. By Australia's nature, you're going to be living 1000kms away from 70% of your player pool no matter what. Does he need to go to every super game live? I think he could easily be based in NZ for a lot of it.
Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
What type of periods are we talking about?
Given a large portion of the year, the players are either on holiday, preseaon or Super season, I can see there being very little need for Joe to be in Australia. He and the Wallaby staff can jump on weekly calls with all the Franchises in the same way they could if he was based on the GC like Rennie.
He can pop over every X amount of weeks to run through with players in person specific things if needed, but most of the time I'd imagine they're all sitting infront of a screen analysing something.
Given we're not the richest country (or sporting code in Australia), we probably need to think outside of the box when it comes to attracting the best talent.
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
I'm told they've dumbed it down a bit to get more people into Level 2. Interesting to see where that goes
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
WRT the "green to gold" plan:
Participation growth: To increase support for clubs, schools, coaches and match officials to enable growth in participation and strengthen the rugby community.
Lovely.
Perhaps we can start by scrapping the Rugby Australia "Participation Fee" that costs me $1000 per grade per annum. I can use that for recruiting.
Participation growth: To increase support for clubs, schools, coaches and match officials to enable growth in participation and strengthen the rugby community.
Lovely.
Perhaps we can start by scrapping the Rugby Australia "Participation Fee" that costs me $1000 per grade per annum. I can use that for recruiting.
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PhilClinton
Mark Loane (55)
He is the first Wallaby coach to not relocate to Australia from what I understand and already is doing what you're saying above and jumping back over the ditch a lot, same goes for some of his assistants.
So yeh, I am not sure what additional leave periods they mean.
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
Have RA actually said anything about increased leave or flexible work as head coach, or is it the media speculation around it?
From what I recall any chat about Schmidt staying on but with more flexibility has been from the media, but looking at Schmidt transitioning into a Director of Rugby or assistant role, supporting a new, first time head coach coming into the role.
PhilClinton
Mark Loane (55)
I love Joe - Vote 1 Joe, so definitely don't take this as some type of anti-Joe agenda.
My concern is what I've highlighted there - stability.
I agree RA and Joe have earnt a fair bit of goodwill in this situation, there is clearly some good chemistry within the playing and coaching group. But you also don't want a scenario where the team are slacking when the substitute teacher is handling the camps and standards potentially drop.