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Australian Bid for 2027 World Cup

stoff

stoff

Trevor Allan (34)
Is there an embargo period for RWC stadiums prior to the tournament like they have for soccer?
 
JRugby2

JRugby2

Bob Loudon (25)
stoff said:
Is there an embargo period for RWC stadiums prior to the tournament like they have for soccer?
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I'm not sure - but that embargo was because FIFA have some minimum standards re field quality so that the ball travels smoothly across the surface, which isn't an issue for us.

Also, with the October/ November timeslot a lot of the major stadiums will have had a few weeks of no traffic (or heavily reduced) to recover from the regular winter sport seasons. Being late spring - turf should be recovering much quicker as well and probably not going to be an issue for the tournament no matter where its played*

*unless its Marvel - all bets are off
 
Braveheart81

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I think the RWC rules for stadiums is just the removal of all regular advertising and signage and replacement with official sponsors.

I don't think there is anything close to the 14 day embargo FIFA has.
 
liquor box

liquor box

Peter Sullivan (51)
waiopehu oldboy said:
^ any chance they just didn't want it & the Rebs were just a convenient way of making it look otherwise?
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I think the government would get crucified for bidding for Rugby and letting the Commonwealth games go.

I love rugby but realise that a significant part of the population don't, or at a minimum have more interest in other Commonwealth games sports over rugby.

If I lived in a broke state like Victoria I would want government money spent on a sports the majority may enjoy watching.
 
Wilson

Wilson

Phil Kearns (64)
liquor box said:
I think the government would get crucified for bidding for Rugby and letting the Commonwealth games go.

I love rugby but realise that a significant part of the population don't, or at a minimum have more interest in other Commonwealth games sports over rugby.

If I lived in a broke state like Victoria I would want government money spent on a sports the majority may enjoy watching.
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State spending on sport is not supposed to be about putting on the events the residents of that state want to see, it's about bringing in visitors and their spending on everything around the event. Politically it does get corrupted - it's easier to appeal to voters with events they want, even if they won't serve as a big an economic driver, but for a "broke state" that spending should be more focused on economic factors then the specific sports the residents want to see.

Whether or not these events serve as a significant economic driver, particularly in relation to what's spent on them is another (significantly more complicated) question.
 
The Ghost of Raelene

The Ghost of Raelene

David Codey (61)
To that point I'd saw the RWC would have a higher rate of international and interstate travel than the Comm Games. Vic does have a huge number of those events though with the F1, Aus Open etc so maybe it's not worth it.... Although I doubt many travel internationally for those. Interstate yes.
 
LeCheese

LeCheese

Greg Davis (50)
The Ghost of Raelene said:
To that point I'd saw the RWC would have a higher rate of international and interstate travel than the Comm Games. Vic does have a huge number of those events though with the F1, Aus Open etc so maybe it's not worth it.... Although I doubt many travel internationally for those. Interstate yes.
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Can't speak for the tennis, but the Aus GP gets a decent number of international visitors due to it being the season opener (except the last few years) and one of the cheaper tickets to purchase (excl. flights, accomodation, etc.).

Official figures from 2023 were ~9000 international and 70,000 interstate attendees.
 
Slim 293

Slim 293

George Smith (75)
Aus Open did release some statistics from last year's attendances, and it was roughly 56% local, 34% interstate and 10% international...
 
The Ghost of Raelene

The Ghost of Raelene

David Codey (61)
I guess hotels and restaurants don't change for international or interstate so it's a moot point on my behalf but I still think RWC would move the needle more than a Comm Games tourist wise. I know I wouldnt travel to watch Comm Games but would at least have a look at prices for a RWC fixture.
 
barbarian

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
Staff member
That's beyond doubt Raelene. Rugby travellers are high net worth from some of our most valuable inbound markets - UK/Europe, Japan, NZ.

It's one of the reasons rugby still has the ear of Governments at a State level. They can provide a visitation and spend that our competitors (League, AFL, Football) cannot.

I'd be pretty surprised if the Vic Govt don't pony up for at least a few pool games. With an election coming up I'd think a small investment for that would cover them from a lot of criticism. Rugby isn't a needle mover in Vic but the RWC is a well known international event. If they aren't at the table it's a big miss.
 
Slim 293

Slim 293

George Smith (75)
Just some further news out of Canberra...

The ACT government has been waiting for World Rugby representatives to return from holidays before reviving discussions about the city's involvement in the 2027 event.

It is believed tournament organisers are keen to finalise the list of venues before the end of January. There has been speculation Victoria won't host any matches as part of the fallout of the Melbourne Rebels' demise, while Sydney and Perth are bidding for marquee fixtures.

Canberra's involvement has been lost under a cloud of uncertainty despite the capital being one of only a handful of four cities with a Super Rugby franchise.

The government lodged a bid for a four-game package almost 18 months ago, but there is still no formal agreement as the deadline nears.

ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr has been reluctant to pay what he says are excessive fees to be a host city for any major tournament, highlighted by the decision to snub the women's soccer World Cup two years ago.

His preference is to host the national team for one-off fixtures rather than getting swept away in the hype of a World Cup to host minnow nations.
But the government has reassessed the value of the rugby World Cup and there is hope Barr and the organising committee will be able to strike an 11th-hour deal to secure content for Canberra Stadium.
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www.canberratimes.com.au

Canberra's two-week deadline to bid for World Cup games. Should the ACT govt pay up?

World Cup officials are keen to finalise venues in the coming weeks.
www.canberratimes.com.au www.canberratimes.com.au
 
The Ghost of Raelene

The Ghost of Raelene

David Codey (61)
Correct me if I'm wrong locals but I reckon plenty of people would get out for a game between say Scotland v Fiji or a Japan v USA fixture.

It's all well and good to want the Wallabies or All Blacks but what comes with that is price. Sure, plenty of fans will pay a premium for that fixture but some people can't or won't justify taking a family to those for what will be a $1000 event by the end of it all with a t shirt, jersey, hat etc.. but they will go to pool games for the event at half that price.

Silly me though, that's assuming the gov actually give a shit about you and not the photo op holding a Wallaby jersey with their name on it...
 
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