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Bob Davidson (42)
As much as I’d like to see NRC#3, I’m glad it isn’t a thing this year as it couldn’t help but be half arsed. Next year, let’s hope to see it.It's not happening this year:
As much as I’d like to see NRC#3, I’m glad it isn’t a thing this year as it couldn’t help but be half arsed. Next year, let’s hope to see it.It's not happening this year:
As much as I’d like to see NRC#3, I’m glad it isn’t a thing this year as it couldn’t help but be half arsed. Next year, let’s hope to see it.
I imagine the concept is to give all in the squad game time as whilst want to do well would be seen as development opportunity for all players to showcase what they can offer whilst getting exposure at higher level.
I’d just like there to be a distinct planIf they are moving to a Domestic comp in 2024 they will need something to aid the transition, surely.
Everyone get's a ribbon? <great>
I’d just like there to be a distinct plan
It's not happening this year:
I was more talking about NRC 3. I’m with you that they should chose the best selection for every match.Agree, but if a "everyone wins a prise for joining in" policy is real, I just lost a huge amount of enthusiasm for the series. Can't imagine the Pacific Nations could be particularly impressed either.
Not really ‘everyone gets a ribbon’… more it’s a squad of Wallaby possibles and they all need game time… what’s the point of picking a squad of developing players and only picking the so called best 23…. no point.If they are moving to a Domestic comp in 2024 they will need something to aid the transition, surely.
Everyone get's a ribbon? <great>
i don't think we even know who the best 23 are yet either, some players step up when put in higher environments, some don'tNot really ‘everyone gets a ribbon’… more it’s a squad of Wallaby possibles and they all need game time… what’s the point of picking a squad of developing players and only picking the so called best 23…. no point.
i don't think we even know who the best 23 are, its about identifying those are are able to step up as well
A team, nrc all good concepts as need more game time (and at higher level then club rugby) but also need pathways (which australia a addresses for super players but not top club players).
Solution keep Australia A but also have nrc mark 3. I am concerned hearing nothing about when nrc mark 3 may be put in place as god we need this.
The best way to avoid the cluster fuck is to have each super franchise control 2 x teams under their name, think of how QLD ran their teams.I'm a fan of the Super Rugby A comp structure. Keep the players in as streamlined a path as possible following from academies like Gen Blue etc...
Whilst I think it's a fun idea of getting behind a local area its just a cluster fuck (at least in NSW as per usual) The Rays had various versions/partners. The Stars were initially linked with a Subbies club (Balmain) which is now in Div 5 of Subbies. They also had so many spots to fill some players were being hounded to play. Clubs all want control and don't get along due to old ties and rivalries.
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The best way to avoid the cluster fuck is to have each super franchise control 2 x teams under their name, think of how QLD ran their teams.
This allows for a 10 team competitions, Run each week end with 2 x double headers and 1 x single header and then in the second round swap the home ground.
eg -
Rd 1 - QLD Country v Rebels 1, Brisbane City v Rebels 2 at QLD
Rd5 - Rebels 1 v Brisbane City, Rebels 2 v QLD Country at Melbourne.
If you are not involved in a double header then you play Friday night at home with your own 2 x teams.
Double Headers would be Saturday and Sunday.
Maybe player loans could be allowed to ensure that all teams are up to standard.
If we're looking at a replacement to Super Rugby in 2024 I'd think you'd start with 8 teams because adding more than 2 teams from the get go would be hugely challenging.
Keep the current 5 Australian teams plus the Fiji Drua and add another team in NSW and Qld that are both privately owned.
The NSW team is presumably Western Sydney based out of Parramatta.
Not sure on the Queensland team whether you'd have a second team based out of Suncorp or instead look to base them in the Sunshine Coast.
Yeah, even 2 would be tough in the timeframe.If we're looking at a replacement to Super Rugby in 2024 I'd think you'd start with 8 teams because adding more than 2 teams from the get go would be hugely challenging.
Possibly not.Would uncle Twiggy fund two teams?
That comp, with out further changes, is simply going to change "Kiwi teams" with Brumbies for lop-sided progress. A second team in Sydney without opening to the clubs will hit problems, unless something has drastically changed since the days of NRC.
It is an easy entry to a local comp but also needs a lot of work, not just the two new teams.
Yeah, even 2 would be tough in the timeframe.
Fiji would be desirable but resources would be needed to get them in as they have an option.
The Shute Shield would continue running at the same time.
We have to create new teams. Sydney and Brisbane are really the only markets where that seems viable.
In my view it is essential to bring in private equity for these teams and not have them fall under the umbrella of NSWRU/QRU.
Personally I am strongly against not using the existing teams in a new comp. The Waratahs and Reds are some of our best IP and have established membership bases. For a new comp that needs everything to go right it would be insane to do away with that in favour of entirely new teams everywhere like the NRC had (even if some of them are basically just the Super Rugby team by another name).
New teams probably will struggle but we also don't improve our competition by bringing everyone down to the lowest common denominator.
Agree on the IP re the Reds and Waratahs. And whatever way forward is going to have plenty of warts. It's not just new teams that would struggle, but also the emasculated Reds and Waratahs. That's 4 teams in the 8. With 1 team set to dominate - Brumbies. Agree, that this may simply be issues that have to be accepted and/or dealt with. Going domestic would not be easy.
Still setting up a Western Sydney team, without buy in from the clubs, and the Warataahs continue as it - sounds like a suicide pact. Unless you relocate MP (Moana Pasifika) (Moana Pasifika) (unlikely as they as with NZ) or Fiji - which doesn't solve the 8 teams issue.