Aussie Player Exodus

[Major Tom]

Doesn't really matter because we've committed to not changing anything.

Well, happy to hear how you'd solve it legend

 

[Derpus]

There's a 700 page thread around here somewhere with plenty of my thoughts.

 

[Dan54]

I think RA is doing reasonably well on player retention (which the thread is about). How many important players have RA lost in reality? Not a huge amount. They are constrained (like NZR) on population base etc, and so isn't endless amount of coin to keep paying players what some can get in NH.
All the yelling that rugby in Aus will die is just wind. WR (World Rugby) etc will make sure it doesn't even if it did look like it would.

 

[dru]

Theres a 700 1,111 page thread around here somewhere with plenty of my thoughts.

 

[Major Tom]

I think RA is doing reasonably well on player retention (which the thread is about). How many important players have RA lost in reality? Not a huge amount. They are constrained (like NZR) on population base etc, and so isn't endless amount of coin to keep paying players what some can get in NH.
All the yelling that rugby in Aus will die is just wind. WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby) etc will make sure it doesn't even if it did look like it would.

rename thread as Aussie Player Retention

 

[Muzza]

I did bit of research, and it seems NZ rugby have a salary cap of $12.5m. Even if that is NZ $, it double the salary cap RA have. No wonder NZ rugby have better retention of players + better clubs. imagine we had a $10m+ salary cap. we wouldn't be losing so many players OS.

 

[Braveheart81]

The whole ‘reverting to historical norms’ is such a copout. We had a huge financial headstart and strong performances at the start of the professional era and cooked it. What relevance is, for example, the amateur games struggles in the 60s and 70s at this point?

The top down model doesnt work and its biting NZ as well. They were just in a way better position.

Every model is a top down model. The reason why the home nations and France and generally in a strong position these days is because of the Six Nations providing them with huge amounts of money.

The English Premiership is full of sides in financial strife. The French competition is bankrolled by wealthy owners and wouldn't be close to resembling what it is without owners willing to lose money.

What was our huge financial headstart?

 

[Derpus]

Every model is a top down model. The reason why the home nations and France and generally in a strong position these days is because of the Six Nations providing them with huge amounts of money.

The English Premiership is full of sides in financial strife. The French competition is bankrolled by wealthy owners and wouldn't be close to resembling what it is without owners willing to lose money.

What was our huge financial headstart?

Yeah and none of them work. I'm confused. As you say, most of their comps are equally unviable financially.

My point was more general anyway. Just because there is historical precedent (of dubious relevance IMO) for something doesn't mean we should sit back and accept reverting to it. The opposite should be the case, really.

Post RWC03.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

JOC (James O'Connor) heading to Leicester

Stuff

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[JRugby2]

July Internationals other than Aus & NZ

Samoa squad Forwards: Aki Seiuli, Titi Lamositele, Kaynan Siteine-Tua, Luteru Tolai, Pita Anae-Ah Sue, Leif Schwencke, Michael Ala'alatoa, Marco Fepulea’i, Tietie Tuimauga, Bradley Soo Amituanai, Samuel Slade, Benjamin Petaia Nee-Nee, Michael Curry, Theo McFarland (capt), Olajuwon Noa, Jonah...

www.greenandgoldrugby.com

Not that it was ever likely that he would play for Australia, Sam Greene looks to be officially capped by Japan and off the table.

 

[Adam84]

Hard to belive it's been almost 10 years since he played for the Reds

 

[Mick The Munch]

Could make a good team out of this lot.

Credit - thanks to someone on Reddit

 

[Ignoto]

Could make a good team out of this lot.

Who's paying for this extra team?

 

[Mick The Munch]

That's not what I meant - jeez - just some interesting info

 

[JRugby2]

Nah Mick that's not how this place works. Whether you wanted it or not, you're fighting.

 

[Mick The Munch]

Classic Red's fan eh, always thinking someone is having a pop

 

[RugbyBrute1987]

Classic Red's fan eh, always thinking someone is having a pop

 

[Adam84]

Could make a good team out of this lot.

Credit - thanks to someone on Reddit

Hey Mick, stats time:

20% of the 2019 Wallabies backline now live within 5 train stops of each other in Tokyo
41% of listed overseas players are ex-Reds.

 

[Derpus]

Hey Mick, stats time:

20% of the 2019 Wallabies backline now live within 5 train stops of each other in Tokyo
41% of listed overseas players are ex-Reds.

So its predominantly the Reds fault we are losing so much talent?

 

[Adam84]

So its predominantly the Reds fault we are losing so much talent?

or just like Mack Hansen... is it the Tahs fault for not signing them?