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Aus vs NZ - 1st Test Sydney 17Aug2013

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ChargerWA

Mark Loane (55)
I am seriously worried about the grunt in our pack.

How about ?

1. Sio
2. Moore
3. Kepu
4. Fardy
5. Horwill
6. MMM
7. Gill
8. Mowen

Getting both Fardy and MMM in there seriously improves things. But I don't think it is a combo Link would consider. Combinations in the lineout would be fresh.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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The bit about more bad kicks than good kicks and the assertion that his defence is non existent.


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Well he did miss 41% of the tackles he attempted. That's a huge percentage.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Mogg needs to bulk up without losing his pace, as that's one of his best attributes.........

Side on tackles don't seem to be an issue with him (made 2 try saving tackles against the Reds), but gets bumped off easily when he tries to take on a larger player head on........

Quade's issues seem to be the opposite....... a few players have tried to run over him this year because of his tackling issues and he's put them down (Quade is by no means lightweight), but players can still quite easily run past him (technique issue?)..........
 

Pusser

Larry Dwyer (12)
Well he did miss 41% of the tackles he attempted. That's a huge percentage.
Not sure where the stats come from I can't reconstruct them from the seasons stats I can find. Still I agree it doesn't look good but to assert he has more bad kicks than good kicks is bizarre. In his favour for the Bledisloe is that he will not have the same lead up.


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Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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Slim 293 According to that reputable establishment Wikipeadia Mogg goes at 187cm and 90kgs and Cooper 186 cm and 92 kgs. Mogg looks a lot more gangly than Cooper and I know the weights aren't trustworthy on any site. But if Mogg misses that many tackles I can't see how Cooper and he could be in the same side.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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Not sure where the stats come from I can't reconstruct them from the seasons stats I can find. Still I agree it doesn't look good but to assert he has more bad kicks than good kicks is bizarre. In his favour for the Bledisloe is that he will not have the same lead up.


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Although he missed a couple of kicks in the final two games, some critical misses, it would be great to see a huge boot in test rugby for Australia again. I was very surprised at the missed tackles and surprised to find he only made 32 for the season. He missed 13 of those. It could be an anomaly with the low figures involved.
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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BOOM - To'omua ahead of Cooper

Matt To'omua expected to get the nod at No.10 ahead of Quade Cooper for Bledisloe opener


WEN McKenzie is set to make a shock selection in his first Test by handing Brumbies rookie Matt To'omua a Test debut in the Wallabies No.10 jersey against the All Blacks on Saturday.
Keen to use the element of surprise against New Zealand, the Daily Telegraph understands McKenzie has overlooked Queensland Reds playmaker Quade Cooper for a comeback, the scenario most predicted based on their provincial history.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
 

Pusser

Larry Dwyer (12)
BOOM - To'omua ahead of Cooper

Matt To'omua expected to get the nod at No.10 ahead of Quade Cooper for Bledisloe opener


WEN McKenzie is set to make a shock selection in his first Test by handing Brumbies rookie Matt To'omua a Test debut in the Wallabies No.10 jersey against the All Blacks on Saturday.
Keen to use the element of surprise against New Zealand, the Daily Telegraph understands McKenzie has overlooked Queensland Reds playmaker Quade Cooper for a comeback, the scenario most predicted based on their provincial history.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Won't be much of a surprise then :-(

Unless its a double bluff:)




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Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
BOOM - To'omua ahead of Cooper
Ewen McKenzie is set to make a shock selection in his first Test by handing Brumbies rookie Matt To'omua a Test debut in the Wallabies No.10 jersey against the All Blacks on Saturday.
Keen to use the element of surprise against New Zealand, the Daily Telegraph understands McKenzie has overlooked Queensland Reds playmaker Quade Cooper for a comeback, the scenario most predicted based on their provincial history.

There are some strange things about this story:
  1. As Pusser says, its now not much of a surprise if its true.
  2. If McKenzie is leaving it late to make the announcement to conceal his hand, why would he leak it to a journalist?
  3. There is no sense of outrage at the decision in the article at all. But this is the Courier-Mail, where even the slightest hint of an anti-QLD decision is regarded as defamatory to all QLDers and justification for secession.
I think I'll wait till the team announcement till I am sure that this is how it will be.
 

emuarse

Chilla Wilson (44)
Won't be much of a surprise then :-(

Unless its a double bluff:)




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Well I read an article that said McKenzie would make a great poker player - double bluffs might be part of his repertoireo_O
 

emuarse

Chilla Wilson (44)
There are some strange things about this story:
  1. As Pusser says, its now not much of a surprise if its true.
  2. If McKenzie is leaving it late to make the announcement to conceal his hand, why would he leak it to a journalist?
  3. There is no sense of outrage at the decision in the article at all. But this is the Courier-Mail, where even the slightest hint of an anti-QLD decision is regarded as defamatory to all QLDers and justification for secession.
I think I'll wait till the team announcement till I am sure that this is how it will be.

Except that the article is originally from 'The Daily Telegraph'.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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I thought this little quote from a Foxsports.com.au article was interesting:

Most clearing kicks from the Kiwis will be directed towards left winger James O’Connor and fullback Jesse Mogg - the Wallabies’ left-footed kicker who has a giant punt.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/t...oot/story-e6frf4qc-1226696579943#.Ugq4I6z4vwk

Seems awfully specific to mention JOC (James O'Connor) as the left winger in particular before the team has been announced. I wonder if this is a not so subtle slip of what the training structure has been.

A couple of days before the team is announced, you'd think that anyone watching training would have a pretty good idea of who the likely starting XV is.

I wonder if that means a back three of JOC (James O'Connor), Mogg, Folau. On the whole that would make most people pretty happy I think.
 

RoffsChoice

Jim Lenehan (48)
Sully I'm interested - Is the low tackle count due to the Brumbies tight defence up front? Is he missing more because the people who break the line are good enough to beat the one tackler remaining?
Or has he just been slack and has poor tackling technique? As mentioned above, he's fine from the side but struggles from front on.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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Sully I'm interested - Is the low tackle count due to the Brumbies tight defence up front? Is he missing more because the people who break the line are good enough to beat the one tackler remaining?
Or has he just been slack and has poor tackling technique? As mentioned above, he's fine from the side but struggles from front on.
RoffsChoice I really can't tell you mate. I spend most of my season concentrating on the most awesome Australian Super Rugby side and not the brumbies. And I tend to be more interested in players with single digit numbers. But Slim 293 or Brumby Jack or one of the other Brumbies die hards will be sure to clear it up.
 
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