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In the case of the Tahs and Rebels I wonder if the 'vote' is given to the CEO of the Super Rugby side or the governing body of rugby in that state?
ARU Governance Report
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Billy Sheehan (19)
The report states that existing board members can finish their term, so does anyone know how much longer this will be?
An Independant Commission, at last
An Independant Commission, at last
It is what it is
John Solomon (38)
Both for NSW I think
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...independent-path/story-e6frg7o6-1226534021872
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/a...get-more-say-in-aru-setup-20121210-2b5pd.html
Both The Australian and The SMH report last night's meeting approved a move to an independent commission for Australian Rugby. Let's hope the new lot do a much better job than the last lot.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/a...get-more-say-in-aru-setup-20121210-2b5pd.html
Both The Australian and The SMH report last night's meeting approved a move to an independent commission for Australian Rugby. Let's hope the new lot do a much better job than the last lot.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Whoever they are, they will have a task of epic proportions ahead of them, as will the new CEO.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
The report states that existing board members can finish their term, so does anyone know how much longer this will be?
An Independant Commission, at last
Not sure how long the current directors will remain. After the initial announcement, there seems to have been a deathly hush from ARU HQ.
Does anyone out there know if any time lines are in place? Is there a working party putting anything together?
Passing the resolution is one thing, but something actually has to happen. We're still without a CEO and now our administration seems to be in a state of limbo between old and new.
Events can move so quickly in professional sport, things need to be put in place and bedded down sooner rather than later. so that important and long term decisions can be made. This is so for all sports, but particularly for rugby as it seems we are still making the transition from amateur to professional outlook.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Back in the old days, in the period between the Publication of the Arbib Report and now, Kerry Packer and his cronies managed to turn the Cricket world on its ear.
The ARU have done what? To buy QLD votes for change, they have backflipped on QC (Quade Cooper). To buy NSW votes for change, they have paid for IF to play 2 Shute shield games for Sydney Uni.
Genuine change? I'd like to see it too.
Apart from Green and Gold's own Lee Grant, who else would you have on the Independent Commission?
The ARU have done what? To buy QLD votes for change, they have backflipped on QC (Quade Cooper). To buy NSW votes for change, they have paid for IF to play 2 Shute shield games for Sydney Uni.
Genuine change? I'd like to see it too.
Apart from Green and Gold's own Lee Grant, who else would you have on the Independent Commission?
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Anyone got any news on the revised ARU constitution?
How about Little Johnny Howard on the Australian Rugby Commission?
The Mungo's tried to snare him for their commission.
He was a great promoter of the Wobs when PM. His Wallabies tracksuit still should be in good nick.
After his efforts on the pitch in Afghanistan, Cricket probably don't want him. High profile, connected, impartial, understands "the electorate"(Grass roots). Ticks a few boxes.
How about Little Johnny Howard on the Australian Rugby Commission?
The Mungo's tried to snare him for their commission.
He was a great promoter of the Wobs when PM. His Wallabies tracksuit still should be in good nick.
After his efforts on the pitch in Afghanistan, Cricket probably don't want him. High profile, connected, impartial, understands "the electorate"(Grass roots). Ticks a few boxes.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
http://www.rugby.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/1699/ArticleID/8923/Default.aspx
Australian Rugby Union held its Annual General Meeting in Sydney today, the first under a newly adopted Constitution.
Members voted in favour of a new Governance model last year following recommendations from the Strengthening the Governance of Australian Rugby (the Arbib Review), which was released in October 2012.
The AGM also saw long-serving President, Ron Graham, address the gathering for the final time, standing down after more than a decade of service to ARU.
ARU’s Vice President, Mr Crombie was elected unopposed to the position of President.
Former NSWRU President and Wallaby forward, John Coolican, was elected to the position of Senior Vice President, while former Wallaby Captain, recent Hall of Fame inductee and current QLD President, Tony Shaw, was elected to a new position of Junior Vice President.
The AGM also saw three ARU Board members reappointed.
Following nominations by the independent Nominations Committee John Eales, John Mumm and Chairman Michael Hawker AM were all elected unopposed for further three year terms – and all as independent directors – under the game’s new Governance model.
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So in charge of heavensgame appear to be:
Michael Hawker, John Eales, John Mumm, John Coolican, Tony Shaw, and David Crombie.
Thoughts?
Australian Rugby Union held its Annual General Meeting in Sydney today, the first under a newly adopted Constitution.
Members voted in favour of a new Governance model last year following recommendations from the Strengthening the Governance of Australian Rugby (the Arbib Review), which was released in October 2012.
The AGM also saw long-serving President, Ron Graham, address the gathering for the final time, standing down after more than a decade of service to ARU.
ARU’s Vice President, Mr Crombie was elected unopposed to the position of President.
Former NSWRU President and Wallaby forward, John Coolican, was elected to the position of Senior Vice President, while former Wallaby Captain, recent Hall of Fame inductee and current QLD President, Tony Shaw, was elected to a new position of Junior Vice President.
The AGM also saw three ARU Board members reappointed.
Following nominations by the independent Nominations Committee John Eales, John Mumm and Chairman Michael Hawker AM were all elected unopposed for further three year terms – and all as independent directors – under the game’s new Governance model.
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So in charge of heavensgame appear to be:
Michael Hawker, John Eales, John Mumm, John Coolican, Tony Shaw, and David Crombie.
Thoughts?
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Tell me about Mumm and Crombie.
I have the utmost respect for Hawker, Eales and Shaw as wallabies and Coolican as a servant of the game.
Unfortunately, they're all private school old boys - just like the rest of the ARU: this would be fine in itself if the game had demonstrated some interest in moving beyond its traditional demographic.
Edit:
Mumm: John is a nonexecutive director on the board of the Australian Rugby Union and a former member of the board of The King’s School Foundation.
His father being an AB perhaps takes him outside the usual suspects.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
There is a bit of a feeling of a "Steady as she goes". "Aye Aye Skipper" going on.
Like Inside Shoulder, I am somewhat skeptical about their ability to deliver the necessary changes that we need across the board.
Like Inside Shoulder, I am somewhat skeptical about their ability to deliver the necessary changes that we need across the board.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Man on the hill
Alex Ross (28)
the French say - the more things change; the more they stay the same?
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
This is the truly telling point.
All the governance reform guff - very significantly undertaken not from a sincere motive but rather to secure ongoing Fed Govt $s via being 'governance compliant' - has led to.......
........an absolute zero change in terms of the ARU board's composition.
Even the most cursory examination of this board's course of conduct since 2003 highlights a catalogue of poor governance practices at the ARU (I compiled a long list in the JO'N-and-EchoEnt thread last year). The latest GAGR front page essays implicitly relating to this subject, excellent as they are, just gives further credence to prior concerns in this key area of our code's management.
When 'a major structural reform of governance' in an institutional body - that is meant to serve a sporting community - yields zero change in board composition, the real message is poignantly conveyed: the ARU board has no intention of giving up its privileges and reforming itself in any way, it is content with its own performance and standards, and wishes above all to preserve itself as is. This stance and its profound insularity is entirely consistent with the ARU board's recent conduct in, just for example, enforcing and ensuring zero accountability for its recent CEO and current national coach, and the paying to the former of truly exorbitant sums of money for no achieved results (quite the contrary), all when the local levels of rugby are struggling for survival in many areas.
The real truth is that the governance of rugby in Australia is not reformed, not changed, not improved; rather, it's perilously out of control as manifested by the conduct of its highest supervisory body.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
There are a few reasonably high placed club officials who browse these threads.
Some have very courageously "outed" themselves while the rest of us choose to remain anonymous behind our avatars.
I do not expect the Club officials to comment on these threads for rather obvious reasons, but given the pressure that you have been put under by the ARU and others, you need to do something behind the scenes to indicate the discontent that is out there in rugbyland.
When I last looked the SRU existed totally as a body to represent the affiliated Clubs, the same for the NSWRU. They exist based on endorsements from the likes of SRU, NSW country RU, NSW Suburban RU. NSW Schools and Juniors have non voting rights at NSWRU IIRC. I expect that similar structures exist in QLD and the other states,
Theoretically Grass Roots has enormous power to influence what happens further up the tree. HTF has the situation arisen where the Tree (Rugby Central) seems to have the Grass Roots compromised like a metaphorical goat staked out in the middle of a jungle clearing as tiger bait.
Surely the discontent being expressed here on Gaggerland is symptomatic of much of Heavensgame. We can't all be in the minority can we with everyone else happy that the game is shrinking and financially like Old Mother Hubbards cupboard (or the St Leonards Trophy Cabinet).
Is there anyone out there with any real influence? Help.
I had great faith in Cossie. Australian of the Year, A Man of the People, Working Class Paddington Catholic from CAS School, traveled the world, seen and righted injustices, loyal servant of the Crown..... What happened?
Some have very courageously "outed" themselves while the rest of us choose to remain anonymous behind our avatars.
I do not expect the Club officials to comment on these threads for rather obvious reasons, but given the pressure that you have been put under by the ARU and others, you need to do something behind the scenes to indicate the discontent that is out there in rugbyland.
When I last looked the SRU existed totally as a body to represent the affiliated Clubs, the same for the NSWRU. They exist based on endorsements from the likes of SRU, NSW country RU, NSW Suburban RU. NSW Schools and Juniors have non voting rights at NSWRU IIRC. I expect that similar structures exist in QLD and the other states,
Theoretically Grass Roots has enormous power to influence what happens further up the tree. HTF has the situation arisen where the Tree (Rugby Central) seems to have the Grass Roots compromised like a metaphorical goat staked out in the middle of a jungle clearing as tiger bait.
Surely the discontent being expressed here on Gaggerland is symptomatic of much of Heavensgame. We can't all be in the minority can we with everyone else happy that the game is shrinking and financially like Old Mother Hubbards cupboard (or the St Leonards Trophy Cabinet).
Is there anyone out there with any real influence? Help.
I had great faith in Cossie. Australian of the Year, A Man of the People, Working Class Paddington Catholic from CAS School, traveled the world, seen and righted injustices, loyal servant of the Crown..... What happened?
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
he was beaten by the fact that lies behind this Bruce Dawe poem we studied at scgool many moons ago:
How to go on not looking
despite every inducement to the contrary,
How to train the dumb elephant, patience,
to balance by command on its circus stool
without betraying its inward teetering,
How to subdue the snarling circle of ifs
by whip-crack, chair-twirl, seeming to look each steadily
in the eye while declining to unwrap
the deadly golden bon-bon of their hate,
How to forget also the silence
tenting itself over the old once wildly-applauded acts,
over Beppo and Toni, the Heavenly Twins,
not to mention Bucephalus, the Wonder Horse,
How to cry 'Ladies and Gentlemen!' to an empty marquee
where only the canvas flaps in the night wind,
how to people the vacant benches without bitterness,
And how to go on not looking and not looking
until the good years, the good pitches
return and the crowds gasp again
at the recurrent miracle of the balancing elephant,
the dutiful big cats, the Heavenly Twins
making it all look too easy, the ring-master
merely an accesory after the fact.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
As usual, we can rely on Inside Shoulder to raise the tone of debate in the forums to a higher intellectual level.
"How to go on not looking despite every inducement to the contrary"
Has non respiciens obstante contraria omni incitamento become the new Motto for the ARU Board?
"How to go on not looking despite every inducement to the contrary"
Has non respiciens obstante contraria omni incitamento become the new Motto for the ARU Board?
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