Argentina v Australia, 8am Sunday 1 Sep (AEST) - TRC Round 3

[dru]

Much better D from the forwards for a while there.

 

[Marce]

had 6 yrs of joe ball, it can be successful but it’s a tough watch

Are u from Ireland?

 

[K974]

Yes, but in and out of australia for 30yrs so big Wallaby fan ,
Joe was successful with ireland undoubtedly, the 19 rwc 1/4 they were missing 6 key players, nz 19 they were found out by then but other than them he got us to no 1

the issue ultimately and why they ran out of road was the ultra attritional game plan and toward the end the players were just tired.

this difference with the layered gameplan with mostly same players , Farrell introduced fed is remarkable

it’s well documented the teacher / dictator type show he runs , look up andrew potter peter o mahony comments

from a kind of outsider the 40+ phases everthing thru 9&10 doesn’t suit the Australian mindset

he’ll undoubtedly make australia hard to beat tho

 

[Marce]

3 points by Harry Wilson

 

[rugbyAU]

bring in the overseas players

 

[Marce]

You are now a power nation thanks in part of Joe Schmidt

 

[dru]

Pumas showing how to do a short kicking game in these conditions. [On the back of improving D by our forwards]

 

[dru]

Loloesio depth is fine when the forwards are actually going forward.

 

[Sir Arthur Higgins]

Not much nuance to our attack. It’s very bash it up

 

[Marce]

You can't win at this level with an useless 10 like Lolesio. He's just not a test level player

 

[Pokinacha]

Worked for Ireland but they’re all much bigger than us in those hit-up positions

 

[Tomthumb]

Nah, I’ve never seen a 10 catch it flat footed as much as he does

 

[Tomthumb]

No, they just use footwork to find the weak shoulder of the defence. Our lot run straight into the tacklers and wonder why they aren’t making metres

 

[KOB1987]

He's just not a test level player

I agree, but the problem is we don’t have one of those who is a 10. There is little downside in giving Donaldson a go though.

 

[Marce]

Stewart brings nothing in attack. No Kerevi, no party

 

[dru]

Stewart is no Kerevi. But he does have much better kicking, passing and ruck work. We don't have a Kerevi available, right now Stewart is maintaining a reasonable debut.

 

[K974]

You are now a power nation thanks in part of Joe Schmidt

Yes very much agreed

but ultimately it needed Farrell to evolve it , bring nuanace like a earlier poster highlighted is missing

. This isn’t à criticism schidmt brought irrland from no where to a world no 1 ranking in 2018, and if he did the same with australia now we’d all be happy even if every game is a 12-6 win

What I’m trying to say, is that the gameplan was highly attritional and limited , eg 27 phases

and I think both that style with the resources australia have he isn’t a perfect Match.

a stodgy , formulated, play by numbers style married ok with Ireland , traditionally australia have far better ball players

schidmt style needs a bread and butter 10 which I can’t see in noah

 

[Marce]

Argentina scored 13 points with nothing

 

[Tomikin]

Well we are still in it, been a bit rough. Hopefully we get a bit more attack. I'm not going to bitch about anyone... I'll big up a few Tupou Bell Fesslar good. LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) and Frost going good. Backrow alright. Wright and ikitau best of the backs

 

[Marce]

traditionally australia have far better ball players

Looooooong time ago. Not anymore