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Rocky Elsom (76)
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I wonder what Deans will do?

I think England again showed that AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) is not a fullback.

I wonder how Kimlin is travelling? He and Lote and both back up scrummies must be the only lads without game time? Deans said they all will, perhapds just baabaas.

I'd probably start Turner with he or Mitchell at fullback.

Would also start Palu and Pocock.

Would like to see Quade get some more game time.

Possible injuries to MMM and Brown I guess we need clarrified.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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I was hoping Cooper would get some time against the Poms But I think we were never far enough in front to chance that. The French looked disorganised against the PIs but I don't think that counts for much because the French are the French and cazn turn that sort of thing around in a second.
 
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Spook

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Hynes isn't offering much ball with in hand. He works hard but he is limited. I also thought Cross was poor against England in attack. We desperately need another ball player in the backs and Burgess needs to think about stuff on the bench as I thought he killed us in attack.

I don't think Deans will tinker much. Might start Palu but this is a side with some balance:

1. Robinson
2. Moore
3. Bulldozer Baxter
4. Sharpe
5. Chisolm
6. 3M
7. Smith
8. Palu
9. Cordingly
10. Cooper
11. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
12. Gits
13. Morty
14. Ioane
15. Mitchell

16. TPN
17. Dunning
18. Brown
19. Mumm
20. Burgess
21. Turner
22. Hynes
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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Spook said:
Hynes isn't offering much ball with in hand. He works hard but he is limited. I also thought Cross was poor against England in attack. We desperately need another ball player in the backs and Burgess needs to think about stuff on the bench as he thought he killed us in attack.

I don't think Deans will tinker much. Might start Palu but this is a side with some balance:

1. Robinson
2. Moore
3. Bulldozer Baxter
4. Sharpe
5. Chisolm
6. 3M
7. Smith
8. Palu
9. Cordingly
10. Cooper
11. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
12. Gits
13. Morty
14. Ioane
15. Mitchell

16. TPN
17. Dunning
18. Brown
19. Mumm
20. Burgess
21. Turner
22. Hynes
i like that side Spook. Not sure if Cooper will get a start, but why not. Agree with Burgess geting some pine though. Cords aint the future, but he's been taken along, the starting 9 is not performing, he has to get a go.
 
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Spook

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AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) had a shitty game but I think he is one of the most elusive runners in Oz and is very physical. Not a fullback at all though
 

naza

Alan Cameron (40)
The French are already running for cover. We'll knock the ball on just so we can demolish them in the scrums. Palu will be subbed off at halftime due to exhaustion from making 50 metre barnstorming charges. The Frogs still have no answer to the up and under - finally it'll pay off for us.

We just need the backline to get a clue. I like Spooks side as well.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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Spook said:
AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) had a shitty game but I think he is one of the most elusive runners in Oz and is very physical. Not a fullback at all though
OK enough is enough it is absolutely no use being an "elusive runner" when you never run! Complete waste of time him being there! If he kept running instead of going nearly to the half way and putting up a useless kick and elusively beat the first man, because he is so elusive, we would have the ball at around there 40 metre mark instead of them having the ball at there 40 metre mark. The kicks are too short and he doesn't chase. and he is a midget!
 
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Spook

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Sully, he does chase but his kicks are too shitty to get to ;D Mitchell has convinced me he is our 15 this tour. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) to the wing.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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Well here is a question for you all. We have met my expectations on tour, of winning 2 from 6, and my hopes of beating England. Is Deans comfortable enough enough in his position to run Mitchell at 15 and Turner on his wing? This probably disregards the fact that Lote could well be back for the rest of the tour and one of the wingers would have to make way for him. As we all know Lote kicking game is not as good as any of the back 3s who have played onthis tour except for Ione.
 

Aussie D

Desmond Connor (43)
France aren't really strong up front anymore so I would like to see Kepu and Alexander get a run off the bench in the last 20. Also, think we need to look at resting Morty and drop Cross altogeher.

1. Robinson
2. Moore
3. Baxter
4. Chisolm
5. Sharpe
6. MMM / Mumm (depending on Brown's injury)
7. Smith
8. Brown / Palu (If Brown is injured Palu and Mumm to start)
9. Sheehan
10 Cooper
11 Turner / Ioane
12 Gitteau
13 AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
14 Hynes
15 Mitchell

Subs 16 TPN; 17 Kepu; 18 Palu; 19 Mumm / MMM; 20 Pocock; 21 Burgess; 22 O'Connor
 
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Spook

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Aussie D, I was thinking the same thing. Give AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) a crack at centre. I wouldn't play Sheehan though. Cords has a better pass.

France are going to want to play a very loose game. Their tight 5 was ordinary in the 6Ns but their outside backs have pace to burn and their backrow is quality.
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
Possible injuries to MMM and Brown I guess we need clarrified.

MMM was just cramping & Brown has a dislocated finger both should be available.

Gotta agree with Cyclopath & Spook that AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) & Mitchell should swap, Burgess really let us down last night I think Cordingley should have a run along with Cooper.

My biggest worry is consistency with the Aussies they've had a tough win now they need to back it up.

Our backs really need to fire also, geez we miss Barnes.
 
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TOCC

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It wasnt Burgess's fault last night, he went to pass it and there werent any options..

I think Cooper could possibly play fullback? he seems to have a pretty good boot on him and he has played it before
 

disco

Chilla Wilson (44)
I think Cooper could possibly play fullback? he seems to have a pretty good boot on him and he has played it before

I don't think we'll see to many changes from yesterday but if Deans makes one I would want to see AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) shifted from Fullback, prefer to see Mitchell but would be happy with James O'Conner Also.
 
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rugbywhisperer

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I think France will give Deans the opportunity to play a game not seen yet on tour.

1. Robinson
2. Moore
3. Baxter
4. Sharpe
5. Chisolm
6. 3M
7. Smith
8. Palu
9. Burgess (I think the French game will be more to his style)
10. Cooper
11. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
12. Gits
13. Mortlock
14. Hynes
15. Mitchell

16. TPN
17. Dunning
18. Brown
19. Mumm
20. Cordingly
21. Turner
22. O'Connor
 

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Simon Poidevin (60)
Staff member
My team for the Frogs:

1. Robinson
2. TPN
3. Baxter
4. MMM
5. Chisholm
6. Mumm
7. Pocock
8. Brown
9. Burgess
10. Giteau
11. Turner
12. Mortlock
13. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
14. Ioane
15. Mitchell

16. Moore
17. Alexander
18. Palu
19. Smith
20. Sheehan
21. Cross
22. Hynes

Anyone who hasn't got a run gets into the 22 for the Welsh match.
 

spectator

Bob Davidson (42)
TOCC said:
It wasnt Burgess's fault last night, he went to pass it and there werent any options..

I think Cooper could possibly play fullback? he seems to have a pretty good boot on him and he has played it before
That idea has some merit. With Barnes out Cooper probably has the best kicking game of the guys there.

Having said that I hope Deans doesn't dick around with things too much, if at all. The same 22 deserve the chance to go back to back. Experiments can come in the last couple of games.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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MAybe Coopers 1 on 1 defence isn't quite up to fullback yet. that was one of the reasons we stuck him between Barnes and crofty
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Well I'm not taking the Frogs lightly - you never know which bunch of French bastards will turn up on the day... Minimum rotation for mine (starting changes in bold)

Front row: Robinson, Moore, Baxter
Second row: Sharpe and Mumm
Back row: MMM, Smith, Brown
Halves: Burgess, Giteau
Centres: Mortlock, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
Wings: Mitchell, Hynes
Fullback: Turner

Bench: TPN, Alexander, Chisholm, Pocock, Sheehan, Cooper, Ioane
 
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