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All Blacks tour of South Africa

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Bullrush

Bullrush

Geoff Shaw (53)
Laumape is back in NZ rugby right? Bring Tom Robinson in. Savea to 7 and Sotutu to 8 or Gus. Never sub off Samisoni LOL.

Can we please tell the wingers that they need to chase kicks?!?
 
Dctarget

Dctarget

Tim Horan (67)
Old High Boy said:
Did you see how he did it though?!

Walked right up to him and showed the red card with arm up high... while Arendse was snoring on the ground..

And what was with his (non) decision about the deliberate knock on by Barrett? He should have watched his own video before starting this match...
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unfortunately I think Gardner has to do that, he has to make it clear to the crowd etc
 
Dan54

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
Dctarget said:
Felt a bit sorry for Gardner who had to dish the red card to the comatose bloke on the ground
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I remember Buck Shelford actually laid a Welsh player out in the 87 WC semi (I think) with a fairly reasonable punch, when he woke up ref fed carded him. Was a different game in those days, apparently ref (think it was Aussie Fitzgerald?) figured he deserved the punch etc.
 
qwerty51

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
What's become really evident is how much NZ are missing Blackadder. The whole backrow combo is off.

Moving Ardie to 7 and dropping Cane would solve a few things. Barrett to 6. Sotutu in at 8.
 
zer0

zer0

John Thornett (49)
Blackadder did a lot of things but they typically weren't effective things. i.e., lots of tackles but a small percentage of dominant tackles. I've said all this before around the Ireland series - and others have said as much too - but Grace/an openside/Sotutu should be looked at extensively. Both are legitimate lineout targets which gives four targets, including the two locks, and both can carry, defend, and get involved at the breakdown.

At openside, Savea could be asked to play an impact role either at the start (like the Bok props) or the end (like Tupou) of the test. Then one of Cane or Papalii taking the other spot.

All quite moot for this week, but should be properly looked at once their back in NZ (with a new coach...).
 
Bullrush

Bullrush

Geoff Shaw (53)
zer0 said:
Blackadder did a lot of things but they typically weren't effective things. i.e., lots of tackles but a small percentage of dominant tackles. I've said all this before around the Ireland series - and others have said as much too - but Grace/an openside/Sotutu should be looked at extensively. Both are legitimate lineout targets which gives four targets, including the two locks, and both can carry, defend, and get involved at the breakdown.

At openside, Savea could be asked to play an impact role either at the start (like the Bok props) or the end (like Tupou) of the test. Then one of Cane or Papalii taking the other spot.

All quite moot for this week, but should be properly looked at once their back in NZ (with a new coach...).
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Savea should be starting 7 and he should be the captain...
 
waiopehu oldboy

waiopehu oldboy

George Smith (75)
Hoping @zer0 can peel back the paywall on this Hurld story:

All Blacks v Springboks rugby: Ian Foster's plan to spark All Blacks as unwanted records continue to mount​


Really, really interested to know what the Cunning Plan is.
 
Dan54

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David Wilson (68)
waiopehu oldboy said:
It's just a formality but he does have to be referred to the judiciary & a day & a half after the game I'd expect that to have happened by now.
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Will all depend I imagine when board sits. But I genuinely thought it was automatic anyway, but it usually on Monday/Tuesday night they have hearing usually.
 
zer0

zer0

John Thornett (49)
waiopehu oldboy said:
Hoping @zer0 can peel back the paywall on this Hurld story:

All Blacks v Springboks rugby: Ian Foster's plan to spark All Blacks as unwanted records continue to mount​


Really, really interested to know what the Cunning Plan is.
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Voilà monsieur.

As the unwanted records mount, All Blacks coach Ian Foster maintains something special is brewing with his spiralling team.

Defeat at Mbombela Stadium, their fifth loss from the last six tests, consigned the All Blacks to their worst start to a season in 52 years. You have to go back to 1970 to find the last time the All Blacks lost three of their first four tests.

Foster's win record as head coach now stands at 60 per cent – 15 wins, nine losses, one draw – after the All Blacks slumped to their worst defeat in 94 years in South Africa, second only to the 17-0 defeat in Durban in 1928. While World Rugby's rankings are volatile and often wildly skewed, the All Blacks have slipped to fifth for the first time, too.

Throw in the maiden loss to Argentina last year and the first successive defeats on New Zealand soil since 1998 last month, and this chequered record is why Foster must inspire the All Blacks to victory at the mecca of South African rugby this week to save his job.

"It's a huge week. We always knew coming over here for back-to-back tests was going to be massive," Foster said as the All Blacks departed Mbombela's lowveld for Johannesburg's altitude. "It would've been nice to win the first one but we didn't so we go to Ellis Park where it's all on the line. It's a trophy that's pretty special to us."

"We've got to have a deep breath. We know there's a lot of pressure on. We are feeling that but we've also got our own pressure on ourselves. Our job is to look at our performance and how we can grow it. I understand the frustration but it doesn't change what we have to do here and now. There's no point sulking about it for too long. We've got to get into Ellis Park and keep believing. I still think there's something special brewing but we've got to keep showing that."

Despite the stats revealing the depths of their decline, and amid the ongoing frustrations with the All Blacks attack, breakdown work and inability to deal with the Springboks' aerial bombardment, Foster reiterated comments following the latest 26-10 loss in which he suggested it was his side's best and most improved performance of the year.

One day after that defeat Foster further explained that he was hearted by the improvements in the All Blacks defence in the outside channels and in close where he felt they negated the Springboks big ball carries. He also referenced the lineout and vastly improved maul defence thanks to Jason Ryan's introduction as forwards coach.

"Also our movements off the ball we had a lot more certainty about what we were doing," Foster said. "I felt those areas were ones we targeted and we did get a big movement. It wasn't good enough. For all that good stuff, we're still a team that's trying to find its feet, trying to get out of these three defeats.

"We're trying a little bit too hard and making errors in big moments. That's the part we've got to sort out very quickly."

Foster confirmed he would inject fresh bodies - likely in the form of Ethan de Groot, Richie Mo'unga and Sevu Reece among others – in an attempt to spark a response, while conceding the vicious cycle that is repeat defeats and pressure has formed an inescapable burden for the All Blacks to bear.

"There's no doubt about that. I'm incredibly proud of the effort they're putting in. Believe it or not there's a lot of belief in the squad and we feel we are taking steps but we have to prove that."

Combating the Springboks' crippling rush defence is yet another issue the All Blacks will attempt to tackle. Foster claimed the All Blacks improved in this area against Ireland, only for their skills to fail them on multiple occasions in the face of shooting Boks defenders.

"They're different beasts. If you look at some of the moments they won defensively there were opportunities around that. That's the stuff we're slowly getting used to. Playing South Africa you're always going to have big pressure points with the way they defend.

"No we didn't get it right on Saturday but there was certainly enough there for us to be interested.

"It's the last pass when you've actually got them but they're throwing everything at that last situation to try and deal with it late. If you exercise that skill set then you've got a lot of space in front. If you don't, then you're in trouble."

That trouble is fast becoming a familiar foe for Foster's All Blacks.
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www.nzherald.co.nz

Changes coming: Foster's plan to spark All Blacks as unwanted records mount

As unwanted All Blacks records grow, Ian Foster insists "something special is brewing".
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Alfred Walker (16)
Gotta say i have never seen an all-black side stuck in their own half for so long.
Why didn't they put a few kicks over the top to stop them rushing up like madmen.
Instead they tried to play their way thru them and it didn't work till last 10 mins.
 
ACR

ACR

Desmond Connor (43)
Slim 293 said:
Yeah, nah… Gardner was fine.
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Na fuck that. He controlled the game fairly well but you can't excuse him letting Arendse off with that early challenge on Jordie Barrett. No way near the ball, clatters into the player, not even a fucking penalty. Of course, what happens... he thinks he can just fly into an aerial contest with no thought and nearly breaks a players neck, let alone his own.
 
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