2018 TV ratings and crowd numbers

[wamberal]

It was actually the perfect opportunity to play a Sunday night game and dominating the ratings. No clash with socceroos, still a weekend time slot for the Irish audience, no clash with NRL or AFL etc.

If 7.30 on this Sunday night is good enough for the NRL and their SOO fixture, it's good enough for us to play it.

These dates would have been agreed long ago.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Channel Ten would have close to zero interest in showing rugby ahead of Masterchef on a Sunday evening

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

You haven't got a smart phone? (and Foxtel now)

Just excuse yourself from the social gathering.

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I do. But I was being forced to socialise under the watchful eyes on no less than 4 women. If I had whipped my phone out at any time it would currently be sitting at the bottom of the harbour.

 

[wamberal]

I do. But I was being forced to socialise under the watchful eyes on no less than 4 women. If I had whipped my phone out at any time it would currently be sitting at the bottom of the harbour.

Might have been worth it if we had won the bloody game.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Bit late but Foxtel rating s have come through
Aus v Ireland - 142k
NZ v France - 115k

 

[Strewthcobber]

Read into it however you want - but AFL and NRL ratings on FTA and Fox on Saturday pretty much held up and were around the same as last week despite the World Cup match.

Rugby numbers were down a fair bit

 

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Read into it however you want - but AFL and NRL ratings on FTA and Fox on Saturday pretty much held up and were around the same as last week despite the World Cup match.

Rugby numbers were down a fair bit

Remember the discussions on whether to up against the WC.

From media watch and there is also an article in the OZ with similar numbers.

Actual rating metro I think were close to 1.7 mill, it's kinda in a four year one month space of its own the WC and the old saying less is more.

From media watch

Media

#Socceroos v Denmark #WorldCup clash brings over three million viewers to @SBS #ausmedia #austv #AUSvDEN #AUSDEN (link: http://ow.ly/qkKh30kC2Zu)
ow.ly/qkKh30kC2Zu

 

[Braveheart81]

The point remains that the only reasonable time to move the game to was 3pm on the Saturday afternoon.

How much more would the local TV audience have increased and what would have been the downside with the international rights they had already sold and the viewers there?

The crowd at the ground was great.

 

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The point remains that the only reasonable time to move the game to was 3pm on the Saturday afternoon.

How much more would the local TV audience have increased and what would have been the downside with the international rights they had already sold and the viewers there?

The crowd at the ground was great.

Kinda, sorta agree just thinks sometimes we could do some more planning

 

[Braveheart81]

Kinda, sorta agree just thinks sometimes we could do some more planning

How exactly? The test match was scheduled long before the Fifa World Cup game. The odds on Australia having that game day and it being the only 8pm match in the entire tournament were incredibly low.

The clash sucked but so does saying that RA fucked up or should have moved the game without also considering that any other option came with significant downsides.

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[Wilson]

Even if they'd planned to avoid a potential clash, 3pm is still the only reasonable time. That slot has been shown to have lower ratings and would've been shit for on selling the rights internationally. There's plenty of things to get pissed at RA over, this isn't one of them.

 

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How exactly? The test match was scheduled long before the Fifa World Cup game. The odds on Australia having that game day and it being the only 8pm match in the entire tournament were incredibly low.

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Actually the dates for the WC are known about 6 to 7 years in advance.

If we make it we are likely to be in the first two weeks.

Yes Murphy's Law happened, but we could have scheduled around those two weeks, as the dates for the Russian WC was determined when we lost prior to the WC bid which took us I think two years to put together, and was announced piror to the last world cup so at least 6 could be 7 years ago. Remember all the fuss about stadium available for match dates.

Like its for us two weeks every four years.

BTW I accept everything you have posted, but if I am in business and I am serious about it, I would have know of a possible date and time clash for years. The risk if thats what we call it;- was Australia would either not make the WC and if we did there would not be a clash. My guess was the WC dates were never considered and so RA set the dates with no consideration of known dates and the rest is history.

As I said before, we see the world differently, I see errors and want answers to how things happened, other see constantly banging on about issues creates a negativity around the game which is not healthy and can if over done cause harm. I actually agree that we in rugby are creating a negativity narrative that is becoming infectious and is probably hurting the the game.

One of the reasons I hardly ever comment on poor play is I think we need to talk up the quality of games.

I was in Melbourne earlier in the year, and was forced to watch about 25 minutes of AFL. The quality and skill on display was abysmal. Players fumbled constantly, could't make passes under pressure and made lots of wrong decisions. I could't believe these teams were in the top league. If I hadn't been told I would have assumed a lower division like Shute Shield. The thing is the commentators were quite effusive in praising 'great skill' and 'quality' when someone did something reasonably O.K. Everyone around me I spoke to believed it was a quality game. This shows me if you talk something up it works and talk it down it hurts.

So I do get the don't be overly negative, BUT when it comes to management and poor or thoughtless decision making I just get so mad with them.

 

[Braveheart81]

Actually the dates for the WC are known about 6 to 7 years in advance.

If we make it we are likely to be in the first two weeks.

Yes Murphy's Law happened, but we could have scheduled around those two weeks, as the dates for the Russian WC was determined when we lost prior to the WC bid which took us I think two years to put together, and was announced piror to the last world cup so at least 6 could be 7 years ago. Remember all the fuss about stadium available for match dates.

Like its for us two weeks every four years.

BTW I accept everything you have posted, but if I am in business and I am serious about it, I would have know of a possible date and time clash for years. The risk if thats what we call it;- was Australia would either not make the WC and if we did there would not be a clash. My guess was the WC dates were never considered and so RA set the dates with no consideration of known dates and the rest is history.

Are you suggesting we just shouldn't have had a mid year test series in 2018 because the World Cup was on at the same time and there was a minute chance of a clash?

Your post is all over the place. You keep suggesting that this could have somehow been avoided as long as they just considered it beforehand but then accept that there were literally no reasonable ways to do so.

You almost make it sound like Rugby Australia shouldn't have held tests this June in the off chance there was a clash.

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[Slim 293]

Yeah, the announcement that the World Cup would be held in Russia was 8 years ago.

As for what teams were playing, what pools they’d be in, and the actual days and times of those games.........

 

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Slim & BH

The draw for the WC spots is also well known and tool place I think two and a bit weeks after the rugby draw.

You guys maybe 100% correct however we could have delayed by a couple of weeks or nominated two kick off times and locked one in after the WC draw.

 

[wamberal]

The dates and times for international matches are not decided unilaterally, though, I would have thought?


Staging an international match is a pretty big logistical exercise, and I would imagine lead times are considerable, with dates and times locked in a fair while in advance. There would also be revenue considerations, both for the host broadcaster, and the venues.

 

[Braveheart81]

Slim & BH

The draw for the WC spots is also well known and tool place I think two and a bit weeks after the rugby draw.

You guys maybe 100% correct however we could have delayed by a couple of weeks or nominated two kick off times and locked one in after the WC draw.

The Wallabies vs Ireland series was announced in October 2017. I could have told you which three Saturdays in June these tests were going to be on any number of years ago because they are consistent.

The FIFA World Cup pool draw was done in early December 2017.

The match schedule including times for the World Cup wasn't announced until March 2018 and then the clash became known.

Tickets for the Wallabies matches went on sale in February. Start times, broadcast rights and everything were entirely locked away by then.

I agree that the Australian TV viewers would have been higher with a 3pm kick off. They wouldn't have been massively higher because afternoon games don't rate well. The crowd at the ground would have been very similar because it was close to sold out.

This was bad luck and I don't think anything can or should have been done about it. It would have caused far more harm than good.

 

[Brumby Runner]

BH, do you feel like you're bashing your head against a brick wall?

 

[Braveheart81]

BH, do you feel like you're bashing your head against a brick wall?

Pretty much.

I feel like the next complaint will be that we should have rescheduled a game because rain was forecast.

 

[ForceFan]

Encouraging to see another >14,000 crowd for the Western Force v Crusaders game with the 6:30 PM start allowing many families to attend.
The circus acts and sideshow rides proved popular as was the excellent effort by the Scotch College pipe band at half time.
Crowd went off when a lucky punter slotted a kick on gold to win $10k for himself and a TV viewer.

The average attendance for the 4 games so far is >15,000 with games against Samoa, Hong Kong and Panasonic to come.

Thanks WSR/Minderoo for reviving the interest in Rugby in WA.