2012 Rugby Championship R5G1 Springbokke vs Wallabies @ the Bull Ring

[AngrySeahorse]

Oh yes & well done SA. Too good.

 

[Brumby Jack]

Kurtley Beale a stand out at 10 and must continue there next week.

The amount of injuries is getting beyond ridiculous and is not helping with any combinations, expecially in the backline that saw them being held together with sticky tape towards the end.

Michael Hooper and Liam Gill were also good in a beaten side.

Who else have we got to play against Argentina next week??? Ben Mowen must surely get a call up with Samo battling a shoulder injury and Higginbotham struggling with a back injury.

Other than that, names out of a hat?

 

[GaffaCHinO]

I know brown was asked to stand by a few weeks back when he was asked to play in the sheild. Even as a force man not sure how i feel about it

Sent from my GT-I9300T using Tapatalk 2

 

[phatcows]

Offloading game? Where has our game gone in general! At least before Deans we had some kind of direction. Now we yell yay to a one off win and praise the players that made it so.
One thing I like from Deans is the attempt at making the team league and union balanced. Some quick run kick runners supported by muscle. Great on paper.
Shame it all went to shit so quick and we still have him. Tonight was so much disaster. The referees were standard SA aka terrible. But we were awful. So many injuries. If we were playing Samoa then it would be justifiable. I shake my head writing this because we are in so much disarray and the aru still thinks deans is the answer.
Rant over. So disappointed.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

 

[Moono75]

Sadly....i think we will be beaten by the Argies next week. If the Honey Badger doesn't get a call up and given a run next week....well your stuffed.

 

[qwerty51]

meh, as expected, can't take much from it

we'll smash Argentina

 

[badabing59]

Sheehan has to start at 9 next week he made phipps look likd a school boy

Sent from my GT-I9300T using Tapatalk 2

Agreed. Sheehan has way more bottle than Phipps, who seemed to wooden and lethargic all game.

 

[Sandpit Fan]

Solid game from the Boks. They will be dangerous when the young ball runners start getting more time.

Some weird referee decisions, but the best team got the win.

Sent from my XT910 using Tapatalk 2

 

[Brisbok]

Offloading game? Where has our game gone in general! At least before Deans we had some kind of direction. Now we yell yay to a one off win and praise the players that made it so.
One thing I like from Deans is the attempt at making the team league and union balanced. Some quick run kick runners supported by muscle. Great on paper.
Shame it all went to shit so quick and we still have him. Tonight was so much disaster. The referees were standard SA aka terrible. But we were awful. So many injuries. If we were playing Samoa then it would be justifiable. I shake my head writing this because we are in so much disarray and the aru still thinks deans is the answer.
Rant over. So disappointed.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

The referees were standard SA aka terrible. Is this your first time watching rugby? Go check the nationality of each of the 3. What a stupid comment.

 

[GaffaCHinO]

Sos to gits? We could do worse.

Sent from my GT-I9300T using Tapatalk 2

 

[phatcows]

Good speech from Sharpie. No excuses.

The boys kept trying to the end.

Woopdie do. The boys didn't try but for 5 mins of the game. Sharpies speech is the same shit we hear from every nominated voice when we lose.


Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

 

[phatcows]

Lol cats. Based on nationality I am not Australian but I am patriotic to Australia. Twit. Secondly the SA players literally stood there waving their arms waiting for the ref to make a call. You are actually right. Australia does not bend the rules enough


Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

 

[Alex]

Its a very interesting question. (I think you mean law 3 just quietly).

I think the law in question is ambiguous and can be read to support Rolland's interpretation

3.4 PLAYERS NOMINATED AS SUBSTITUTES
For international matches a Union may nominate up to seven replacements/substitutes.
For other matches, the Union with jurisdiction over the match decides how many
replacements/substitutes may be nominated to a maximum of seven (subject to Law 3.14
when it may be eight).
A team can substitute up to two front row players (subject to Law 3.14 when it may be
three) and up to five other players. Substitutions may only be made when the ball is dead
and with the permission of the referee.


I think the most comfortable reading of it is that a team may make 7 substitutions (ie 2 + 5) rather than a team may have 7 substitutes.

But I dunno, I see that it has already been brought up on the refs forum and I will be interested to see what they have to say.

Sorry - yeah, 3 of course. But see exception 2 to law 3.12 - it seems that you can exceed your permitted number of replacements for an injured front rower. The exception to the exception only applies if the ref has previously called ucontested scrums, which he had not:

3.12 SUBSTITUTED PLAYERS REJOINING THE MATCH
(a) If a player is substituted, that player must not return and play in that match, even to replace
an injured player.
Exception 1: a substituted player may replace a player with an open or bleeding wound.
Exception 2: a substituted player may replace a front row player when injured, temporarily
suspended or sent off unless the referee has ordered uncontested scrums prior to the event
which led to the front row player leaving the field of play and the team has used all the
permitted replacements and substitutions.
(b) If uncontested scrums have been ordered and there is an injury to a front row player which
requires that player to be replaced and there is a front row player available to replace that
player then the front row player replacement must be used rather than players other than
front row replacements.

 

[Brisbok]

Lol cats. Based on nationality I am not Australian but I am patriotic to Australia. Twit. Secondly the SA players literally stood there waving their arms waiting for the ref to make a call. You are actually right. Australia does not bend the rules enough


Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

??? I think I'll give you the benefit ofthe doubt here and assume that since it's 3.35am on
The east coast, you've just arrived home from a night on the piss. Drink plenty of water cos you'll be feeling shithouse tomorrow.

 

[kronic]

Forwards let us down. There was a serious lack of urgency to the breakdown, slow to clean out and players becoming isolated (not just the forwards).

When a break was made (rarely), there was hardly any support.

Kudos to AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), putting his body on the line like that.

Surely that's the end of Barnes also.

 

[phatcows]

I have lurked this forum for years. Read your pm and get off your horse. When you wake up tomorrow my opinion will still be the same. That being that we are currently awful and SA refs are still poor.


Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

 

[Jiggles]

I got roped in to watching this game even though I said I wouldn't. I thought the Boks were fantastic.

The sub situation was a disgrace. We have a fit LHP ready to go who has been in form all year, but yet again Deans picking his favourites dicks the Wallabies. Well done.

 

[Brisbok]

Haha still calling them SA refs. You have absolutely no idea what you're on about. I'll leave this petty argument here.

 

[phatcows]

Haha still calling them SA refs. You have absolutely no idea what you're on about. I'll leave this petty argument here.

If you were man about it you would have left it to the pm I sent you. It is a shame to have threads clogged with one on one arguments.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

 

[Knuckles]

firstly, what a brutal game that was.
secondly, even 10,000 kms away Quade contributed to the result
thirdly, we need to stop hiding behind the injury toll.

Even during the farce of the non-replacement the commentators were making excuses for the result and named 15 blokes who were out, including some who took the field tonight I might add.

The point of real concern for mine is that it appears, no-one is asking why they are getting injured? I would suggest it's because they spend too much time in the gym measuring skin folds than they do playing footy, getting the body used to taking knocks. We all know there's no fitness like match fitness. Yet we continually hold players back from playing the game.

Who's responsible for it? The two genuises who run the HPU. And ultimately, the two geniuses who run the ARU are the ones accountable for allowing the cotton wool approach to elite level rugby in this country. Until those 4 positions are changed, then we will continue to see performances like we saw tonight.