2012 Rugby Championship Game 2 New Zealand vs Australia - 25 August

[thierry dusautoir]

Cummins to 13 runs hard and I don't honk he can kick so silly chips won't be a problem

 

[Mr Doug]

Mr Doug,

One can only think what the score could have been without the impact of Mr Doug's (R) LRJ's.

Thay have had a lot of use of late and maybe we needed to change the batteries at 1/2 time, or re bless them. Seemed to be working Ok at Oranges.

I think that they are only apprentice LRJ's yet andwhile they have been rather useful so far the full & true power has yet to be unleashed.

Hey Hugh,

I've also been giving the LRJs some thought since the most-recent second placing to the ABs! I'm taking a leaf out of Robbie's book and examining "combinations". Last week I teamed my LRJs with my 1999 Wallaby jersey, and this week it was LRJs and the 2003 jersey. Given that both failed to impress, I'm considering pairing the LRJs with my Bond Uni jersey, or maybe I should request a Reds jersey for Father's Day?!

 

[liquor box]

I stumbled on the replay at the 55 minute mark while channel surfing on Fox 3.
The score was 22-0 at that point.

Despite the shithouseness of our attack, the Men in Gold kept a rampant Darkness scoreless for the last 25 minutes of the game.

The Tahs had a statistic like that, no points in the last 1/4 of the match for the last 10 (or similar) matches of S15 this year. That must be a positive.

All defence and no attack.

could it be that the bench was a better option than the starting team for the tahs?

Our defence cant be too bad though, I think Dingo said that we had outscrored tries over other teams in the previous 6 matches and we only scored 5 in those 6 games.

 

[ACT Crusader]

KB (Kurtley Beale) looks overweight for mine and sluggish to go with it. He's nowhere near the player we saw last year. I hope he gets it sorted out because he's a special talent.

Damn Deans for making him eat all those pies.....

Beale seems low in confidence also, not just since the test season started as well. The bank balance is probably doing okay, but he had a poor season at the Rebels and regularly losing isn't great either. Disrupted by injury yes, but something isn't right.

 

[ACT Crusader]

The ARU made a profit of $30m from RWC 2003.
. Its not as if that $30m was spent in any recognisable way.

Buying big name league players perhaps....

 

[drewprint]

I know it's been mentioned ad nauseum, but I'm still appalled at the SBW-Dagg homeboy handshake.

It was like a couple of 8 year olds practicing the secret handshake to get into their cubby-house.

 

[Moono75]

Cummins is currently smashing Eastwood at the moment

I Like seeing units going hard

Cummins goes hard. He's just what the Wallabies need. He won't die wondering.

 

[Moono75]

Wallabies are going nowhere. The only bigger tale dive is since Alan Joyce took over Qantas. The last 5 years have got us nowhere. If the message hasn't sunk in by now, like so many Bali drug smugglers its a lost cause, time to line you up against the wall and implement rule 303. Deans....thanks for your efforts but your gosnki!

 

[thierry dusautoir]

Cummins goes hard. He's just what the Wallabies need. He won't die wondering.

I am a big cummins fan the kind of lad we need will out enthuse anyone

 

[ChargerWA]

God damn, just watched the Boks/Argies game. I wouldn't be surprised if the Wallabies only win this RC is against Los Pumas in Aus.

They are two very willing packs.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Saffers without the Battleship struggle. Bigger loss for them than losing Bam Bam is for us.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Buying big name league players perhaps..

perhaps "worthwhile" would be a better word - but even then thats only a few of the 30.

God damn, just watched the Boks/Argies game. I wouldn't be surprised if the Wallabies only win this RC is against Los Pumas in Aus.

They are two very willing packs.

Can we be confident (even hopeful) of beating them here? They have a stick-to-it-ness that could worry us in our present frame of mind. They will given themselves a big chance in both games and they play on confidence to an extent.

 

[Vanuatu Chiefs]

I thought a good point was made last night during the game. We live in a country where AFL is big, yet we can't kick and we can't catch ? Might be time to explore all options available boys. I'm sure there's plenty of coaches down here in the big greasy pizza that could help us out.

As recently as 17/8/12, Growden reported in the SMH: "The Wallabies have sought advice from several AFL big guns to improve their often-flawed aerial work. Former Swans coach Paul Roos has been seen at several recent Wallabies' training sessions helping the players improve their skills under the high ball and at restarts. It's not before time, as their poor kicking and catching skills has been a main problem area for the Wallabies for some years, prompting the SOS call to the AFL experts."

IMO we must persist with these cross code specialist coaching skills. It's not as if Dagg, Jane & co just woke one day with their superior aerial skills under their belts. Practice, practice & more practice.

Whilst I'm at it, a specialist backs coach is surely sorely needed so that our attack attacks.

 

[Dan54]

So Teach, when are you moving over here. I am sure you'll get used to seeing the young fella sing Waltzing Matilda.

And he can't play for the Hurricanes over here - just think of it as saving him from himself.

Teach, don't you dare listen to these evil cretins.The boy sounds like just what the Canes need and if he came over here to Oz he would get sunstroke,called a sheepshagger and other things no good young kiwi prop shouldn't ever have to live with, besides too many Aussie club teams have uncontested scrums, he would be devastated!!!!

 

[Scotty]

On the specialist kicking and catching line, one massive disservice we are doing is moving players to different positions. This can't at all help with the ability to increase their required core skills.

Keep back three players in the back three, and keep centres in the centres.

Decide where JOC (James O'Connor) and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) are best and leave them there! (That goes for their super rugby sides as well).

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Dan/Teach

The relationship between NZers and Sheep is well known. Whether he comes to the land of Gold or remains in the shaky Isles will not change that.

We can guarantee that he will not become a Wellingtoner/Hurricane.

With our lack of top class props, your boy will be looked Fact.

 

[fatprop]

With the complaints about Barnes taking more control over the second half it was interesting to see Cooper finished the game with a knee injury. Maybe Barnes stepping in and kicking was a bit about injuries

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[Karl]

With the complaints about Barnes taking more control over the second half it was interesting to see Cooper finished the game with a knee injury. Maybe Barnes stepping in and kicking was a bit about injuries

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Cooper what???

Has he hurt the knee again?

 

[vidiot]

With the complaints about Barnes taking more control over the second half it was interesting to see Cooper finished the game with a knee injury. Maybe Barnes stepping in and kicking was a bit about injuries

I wondered that too.

Cooper isn't moving with the same confidence and freedom as last year, and maybe it's because he's on the comeback trail after munting his knee rather than Deans saying "You're at 10 but I don't want to see you handling, running or in fact being involved any more than absolutely necessary".

He wasn't an enormous hole in the midfield defence, at least.

The real cost of him not playing Bled 1 is that all the vaunted prep time was pissed away on worrying how to tackle SBW and Nonu rather than build a functional backline around our best players.

Hope McCabe is getting there.

 

[Bon]

On the specialist kicking and catching line, one massive disservice we are doing is moving players to different positions. This can't at all help with the ability to increase their required core skills.

Keep back three players in the back three, and keep centres in the centres.

Decide where JOC (James O'Connor) and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) are best and leave them there! (That goes for their super rugby sides as well).

I often wondered about that, particularly when members on here are formulating teams pre-match. I just put it down to a lack of player depth,or of course in some cases injuries.
I know a loss is always a bitter pill to swallow,however I think some of you blokes are a tad hard on your players[and coach] I thought the Wallaby defence was bloody good, scrambled though it was,and had to be. You were fielding some inexperienced [at this level]players,and some players returning from injury. Given the cauldron that is Eden Park and an opposition playing well and chock full of confidence the result was hardly surprising. It will be interesting to see how the rest of the RC plays out.