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2012 Rugby Championship Game 2 New Zealand vs Australia - 25 August

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Scott Allen

Trevor Allan (34)
Isn't it a bit of a chicken and egg argument though?

Did the ball get to the point where it should be caught too early or did the jumper get there too late?

No, there are tell tale signs so you can decipher what really happened.

For example in the first lineout lost, the timing of the throw matches Sharpe and Robinson but not Dennis. It is Robinson that had to run around Timani to move back in the lineout and lift Sharpe (and therefore he has the furthest to move to get into position). This makes Robinson the trigger - the hooker knows not to throw the ball until Robinson's in position. The trigger is different for each lineout - sometimes it is the front lifter, sometimes the jumper but less often the back lifter.

In this lineout Moore has to assume Dennis will get into position as he's watching the front man. As Sharpe is not jumping right at the front of the lineout the ball must be thrown just before Sharpe leaves the ground.

Go down to frame by frame speed and Moore throws the ball exactly at the right time. However, Dennis was slower into position than Robinson, did not get low enough to drive up dynamically and at no stage got his arms fully extended. The fact that Sharpe leans back to try and save the situation is not about the timing of the throw.
 

Scott Allen

Trevor Allan (34)
Thanks for the analysis Scott.

No problem - my lineout analysis later in the week includes examples of TPN getting it right the previous week as well. I must say both throwers have been really good in the last two weeks - I suspect Andrew Blades has been working them hard. Now there are other issues that need to be worked on to get the Wallabies lineout back near the best in the world.

Also, whilst I pinpoint Dennis as the issue in that lineout, he's not the only one who needs to work on his technique.
 

Sir Arthur Higgins

Dick Tooth (41)
got some early morning mail today from a mate who went over to auckland, he returned to the hotel (same one as the wobblies) after dinner and drinks at just after midnight and guess who was sinking beers in the hotel bar? Quade and Kurtley
a solid professional attitude no doubt.
 

Richo

John Thornett (49)
As we've got a two week break I'm going to cover the following areas in that time from the last two games:

1. Back line attack;
2. Scrum;
3. Lineout;
4. Kicking;
5. Attack shape;
6. Defence

This might help me make it through the two weeks. Looking forward to it.
 

Dumbledore

Dick Tooth (41)
got some early morning mail today from a mate who went over to auckland, he returned to the hotel (same one as the wobblies) after dinner and drinks at just after midnight and guess who was sinking beers in the hotel bar? Quade and Kurtley
a solid professional attitude no doubt.
Absolute fucking morons. So over this sort of thing.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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got some early morning mail today from a mate who went over to auckland, he returned to the hotel (same one as the wobblies) after dinner and drinks at just after midnight and guess who was sinking beers in the hotel bar? Quade and Kurtley
a solid professional attitude no doubt.

what's the issue with this? Personally I have no problem with it. It was a 7.40pm game, finishes roughly a couple of hours later. Give them at least an hour after that to shower, interview, (drug tests?? who knows), any post match commitments, and then back at the hotel around 11pm where they'd have some sort of team dinner probably.

So I'd say a couple of beers in the hotel bar after that as a night cap is fine. As mentioned by others, if it was 3 or 4 hours later in a night club, then I'd be concerned. But a couple of quities in the hotel bar as a night cap? Pfft, that's fine by me.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
got some early morning mail today from a mate who went over to auckland, he returned to the hotel (same one as the wobblies) after dinner and drinks at just after midnight and guess who was sinking beers in the hotel bar? Quade and Kurtley
a solid professional attitude no doubt.
Cant be right: there's no complaints of biffo with bouncers on the NZ herald website.
 
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Sir Arthur Higgins

Dick Tooth (41)
got some early morning mail today from a mate who went over to auckland, he returned to the hotel (same one as the wobblies) after dinner and drinks at just after midnight and guess who was sinking beers in the hotel bar? Quade and Kurtley
a solid professional attitude no doubt.
sorry - a couple quiet ones and this is on FRIDAY night
 
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