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The third hand news i'm hearing is that none of the unions that make up SANZAAR have shown up with anything more than status quo or changing to 'round robin'. However round robin reduces content overall, reduces local content for each union, increases travel, creates larger periods for teams to...

God ^^

thanks for posting that CM bit

bugger. its locked. general gist?? Souths crowds up and crowds up when he plays away too?

$4.4m?? That’s a lot of scrap metal! :-) Thanks for the response.

RedsHappy. can they use Ballymore land as security? My understanding is that it was gifted by govt into a trust, and that it can only be used for Rugby purposes, otherwise it reverts back to govt ownership. not sure they have the authority to sell that land and as a result wouldnt be much as...

Sounds coming out of Reds HQ aren’t great... Chairman and CEO cut/resign in quick succession. Replaced by a former CEO as Chairman and acting CEO it appears. And a private banker to boot. He’s looking a lot like a quasi-administrator in the insolvency sense. First admissions of financial...

in 2011-12 the BBL on Fox averaged 230,000 per game. https://www.cricket.com.au/news/big-bash-league-tops-melbourne-television-ratings/2013-12-21 In 2017-18 BBL on Ten averaged 649,000 per game (major cities only) or 947,000 per game (including regional)...

i truly do find this discussion fascinating, maddening and somewhat depressing. So to summarise the Pay tv v FTA issue - viewing numbers on pay tv have been on a long term downward trend. no FTA would want it on current ratings. no FTA would pay. need the money, so stay with pay tv, despite...

Strewthcobber. Super Rugby ratings weren't always thus. there have been a few contributors to the decline - Super Rugby product itself, decline in pay tv subscribers, performance of aus teams. selling a product to FTA would require the broadcaster to understand the potential (and for RA to sell the...

Rugbynutter39, totally agree that talent equalisation is a factor in nearly all sports leagues. Super Rugby is quite unique in not having any system in place that includes ALL teams.

and i think "better" is a truly subjective aspiration - and as result this thread has as many pages as does! and that's all well and good. none of us here (as far as i can tell) are in a position to actually make a call on any of this... from reading every different opinion on this issue over...

So my question to Super Rugby proponents is this... and has always been this. What level of crowd attendance and viewer numbers should RA consider acceptable for Super Rugby? and what levels are financially sustainable for both state and national union? Does it matter that the comp isn't watched or...

whats the split of finals appearance between pre-Super Rugby/professionalism and post? 2 titles from 4 RWC pre-Super Rugby/professionalism vs 2 runners-up form 4 RWC during Super Rugby/professionalism. that's the total of our 4 finals appearances. my point is that we are kind of the same whether we are playing Super Rugby or...

Hi Dan54. i am completely aware of our history of "success". it is so intermittent that you could almost assume that the rare moments of success have been flukes - a coincidence of talent. because beyond '84 grand slam, '91 and '99 RWC followed by the Lions win... we haven't been great. we...

That is amazing. Well done to those gentlemen!!!

Trying to work out which is more alarming??!! Thorn for 10years or the fact we were running out of money and had to ask mum and dad for an advance.

on Super Rugby vs Domestic comp. There is only one window of opportunity to start your 'drawcard' comp in Oz. and that is Feb/march. this is because of our national sports rhythm. starting a comp in August will never allow it to be successful. any comp played in that time slot is destined to be...

on the $$$... Super Rugby will send oz rugby broke eventually. with crowd and viewer numbers being what they are, revenue from game days and merch sales will be in free fall - that impacts the state unions - Reds have been broke before and the same conditions are in place for them to go broke again -...

Australian Super Rugby teams are verging on this ^^^^ description already... and aren't we already at a small cohort of fans?? note the drop from 700k+ for tests down to 50-60k for Super Rugby games.