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I have no problem with you having a problem with that (except as you admit, there is a lot of evidence, now proven of Beale's wrong doing). I do have a problem with you crediting one sided shambolic reporting laced with zero evidence. These two wrongs don't make you right

Of the litany of accusations and smears against DP and EM, how many have been proven? And interestingly, none of these allegations were worthy of anyone commenting on, reporting or even sending malicious emails about - until Kurtley Beale's conduct and career came in to question. Coincidence?

This is what's been most disappointing about this whole episode for me - the way it's been handled by the press, which has led to so much of the public lapping it up. I am of no doubt that like any situation there are two sides of the story. However, so far - bar the leaking of the texts - we...

You know, I actually went and read this drivel, thinking that maybe, just maybe there would be something in it. And what do a I see, an article thats sole quoted source is Kurtley Beale himself with posed lifestyle shots together with his girlfriend. Having just been found guilty by a...

What, you mean like standing up in a plane full of co-workers and the public and verbally abusing the same person? Would that then be repeated?

It's not making that claim at all - no where does it say the journalist has even spoken to Pulver. It's worded to make you think she has. It's actually another piece of cobbled together supposition most probably fuelled by a source with an agenda

I notice no direct quote attributed to Pulver. This tittle tattle is of the same quality as the rest of the unsubstantiated rumours.

No, I'm asking how you know journos got more right than wrong? The only thing we know for sure is that KB (Kurtley Beale) sent an offensive message. Nothing else - not one of the other allegations against EM or DP - has yet been proven

What are you basing this on?

The problem with Australian Rugby precisely IS that a minority of players have been getting away with shit like this that Beale has pulled. How is dealing with that somehow making Beale a scapegoat?? What, a scapegoat for his own earlier actions?? Webster - noted author also of 'the three...

Well, I guess cultural naivety would be another approach to managing your career.

I can go with the fact that in retrospect KB (Kurtley Beale) should have been binned 4 months ago. As the original victim of the abuse however, Patston had more right than anyone else to decide what action to take. To be clear - she knew that by reporting it, Beale would be canned and her role would become...

And who's fault is it BH that it's come out, just now?

I also think there are a few management experts out there getting workplace warnings confused to yellow cards - workplace warnings don't re-set to zero when given. If someone grossly fucks up, and you say "you're not boned, but don't do that again", the first incident is not expunged from...

Woah, woah, woah - reality check Crawling through someone's garbage (or hacking their iCloud account) to find sneaky, incriminating evidence of something that's not their business and then using that for leverage is "holding dirt on someone" Being the victim of vicious workplace harassment...

Want to show me where that material is? We've worked hard to allow discussion of events based on evidence rather than speculation - deleting many posts and closing threads. If you find otherwise, please flag those posts and we'll deal with them.

Is that the Tony Abbot school of diplomacy?

In that case you might want to look at how you phrase and punctuate what you write - which is the only thing we have to go on.

The only thing running right now is Hooper's future as captain down the drain, as he defends a guy with solid evidence against him for workplace harassment and cyber bullying (let alone rumours entering from the wings). I don't think anyone's been blown away by his on field results as captain...

You must have some evidence that no-one else has?