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We have lost 10 bleds in a row, I think copying the all blacks is to ensure that we never catch up. I don't know if I agree with the strategy or not but our plan should be what's best for our players not what there doing elsewhere.

Yep, they lost 16 million due to loss of revenue. It was good governance that he cut so many programs and costs as well as scheduling extra test matches before 2011s projected loses so that we had money in the coffers to protect us from bankruptcy. But then again, no idea. I apologize for my...

I believe Quade is off to Japan to spend time with Sonny and have a holiday at the end of the week.

Nope, they didn't burn 16million in cash, they lost 16 million in projected revenue due to no inbound tours and a shortened tri nations. ''Those reduced revenues are across sponsorship, broadcast and gate. Such an outcome is unsustainable and impacts on the ARU's ability to promote and develop...

Gotta leave Beale at 10 surely? Interesting game, if the news that due to visas anyone that gets flown over might not be able to train before the game. Things could be mighty interesting. In the first year, the Pumas would have to go into this as favorites.

You really want our players not to commit to playing with the effort they normally do to minimize injury? I'm not saying the wobs management shouldn't have known they couldn't replace TPN. I'm saying if the 4th official didn't approve it the shame of the players being confused and the game...

Hugh - I think my comments required that response, I didn't explain it well. At my age most of my friends have school age kids these days and I'm amazed at the lack of smacking, personal respinsability and say they have in what they do. I was raised a bit "old school" for what even my generation...

What did JON do wrong in cooperate? The ARU made contact with Quade. They issued a press release saying they weren't making public comment. Quade escalated things on the rugby club, they issued a statement to correct assumptions about dealings that people had made due to Quades comments. You are...

Poor berrick, him and Quade both being available for team rehab means we have to make the decision of if we attack rehab or take a more safety first approach to it.

Problem is, the 4th official approved his replacement before he came off. If that hadn't happened, he probably would have gone down and been treated on field in the hope he could stay out there, meaning the mess wouldn't have happened.

So coopers dummy spit is a direct result of JON being chairman of echo? Are you able to elaborate on why?

I thought the same but after watching the press conference this morning I actually think the officials should take some respinsability for it as well. Apparantly the 4th official gave approval for the replacement, so it wasn't like he was sent out without approval.

I'm not trying to wind you up cyclo and apologies if that's how its coming across, I just fail to see how a job he has had for the last 4 months is suddenly responsible for things people are bringing up from years past. There isn't actual proof or examples of any conflict or problems at all that...

There is a gen y problem, it is the fault of the generations that have come before. The litigious society we have created has led to people being taught that there not personally responsible for there own actions, this is the problem with the gen y that scarfie refers to in my opinion and one I...

What is JON ignoring?

I think we ran out of players, I'm not sure we had a standby forward that offered us any needed cover.

Cyclo - was alluding to the fact as a doctor, you can perform an op, yet not be there for everyday of a patients hospital stay, instead visiting, giving orders & writing plans to be carried out by others. Time management, something becoming a chairman apparantly takes away from people.

That's not what I said at all. I was asking the question that if he is spending so much time there, how can he not be around to do so?

The problem I have and the reason I choose to defend JoN is that many people state that they wish the game did this or that, for the most part I agree with them, the end game of most wishes is that every level of rugby was thriving, that it was on free to air tv and had several programs talking...

I agree with you, I'm just saying, I'm not trolling asking for proof or questioning why that opinion automatically means John Oneil is not performing his duties at the ARU. If someone came on here and said you working at more than one hospital means that you lack the time to adiquately care...