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I can't tell who is doing Pro12 in South Africa (possibly no one). There is some cross over between Super Rugby in Europe and Pro12 with Sky Sports being involved in both but there is a FTA element in the Pro12 as well. I guess the Pro 12 is coming out of their current agreement next year...

I'd be interested in the wording of the broadcast contract with SAANZAR. If I were the broadcaster, I would be very unhappy with the concept of a competing international competition to Super Rugby in South Africa (and if they were at all vaguely sensible, they would have an exclusivity...

Just thought I'd remind people of this quote from the SA Rugby CEO in April “From a South African rugby high performance perspective we’ve had to acknowledge that the dilution of talent and resources across six franchises – at a time when rand weakness has led to more departures to Europe and...

As does Ice Hockey (8 teams for men playing 28 games - been around for 16 years, 4 teams for women playing 12 games - been around for 10 years) and baseball (6 teams for men).

Vaguely competent management?

I assume that they would do tours - base themselves somewhere and play 3-4 games away at a time. Maybe even play some "home" games in London. Surely this just becomes Super Rugby Mark II with all the same issues ...

You think there is any logic left in this process? Obviously they were trying to do that initially but then realised that it would be impossible to drop 2 teams entirely so have gone for a completely random solution. Why not create a seventh team and put 1 team in the Pro12, 1 team in the...

Doesn't anyone else find this bizarre? I have never heard of any country in any sport having teams in 2 separate competitions in this manner. How on earth is that going to work in practice?

Completely agree with everything you said. The Rebels management didn't exactly start off well with the first CEO (Waldron) resigning before the team even formed and we could (and do in the Rebels thread) complain for pages on the issues with regards to coaching (and how the hell do you get...

It is clearly a "well oiled machine". I do wonder what a botched process would look like.

Yeah, I saw that one. It shows an amazing lack of self awareness and either they have no clue how poorly this process has been managed or they are just prepared to lie.

I'm not attacking the Force. I think the Force should stay and if I would contribute to Own the Force if it didn't sacrifice the Rebels. Lets go back to 2011. The Force have won 28 games and the Rebels 31 games. Neither is great but for someone to say that the Rebels should be dropped...

I'd go significantly less than the other teams. :) But you are completely right around the medium/long term. The media deal in 2020 is likely to be much much lower with not only interest down but it will also be significantly impacted by the expected reductions in broadcast rights values...

RUPA Petition - stronger as five - https://www.strongerasfive.com/petition/

Strike! Strike! Strike! And things further deteriorate as the RUPA are taking a leaf out of the cricketer's books and considering strike action...

I'm sorry Redshappy. I agree with most of your posts but the statement that the Rebels have been performing to substandard outcomes for some time is twaddle. Let's look at 2016 - how many games did the Rebels win last year? 7 - more than the Reds and Force put together (3 wins for the Reds...

It is very simple. I posted it in the Rebels thread Drop the Rebels now and move the Western Force to be the Western Sydney Force. Wait a couple of years for the Brumbies to go completely bankrupt and then they can be dropped and moved to North Shore Sydney with the Waratahs becoming Eastern...

I think they have listened to Turinui's rant that this uncertainty is having a serious impact on the mental health of the players. Mental health is not something you really want to stuff around with.

You read into it what you want. You obviously have a bias towards hoping he sells and will take anything which supports that as the truth and anything else as being incorrect. I'm a Rebels supporter, so I do the complete opposite. So, I think that an attributed source (Turiniui) saying...

100% agree. Being a rugby fan in Melbourne has been tough. Those great days when you couldn't even get the Bledisloe cup on FTA live as channel seven were too busy showing a repeat of a 10 year old movie (why the ARU didn't mandate that the tests needed to be shown live across at least all...