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Lindo, Fatprop, Barabarian, no need to try and "convert" me. For now I think it sucks until I can be proven wrong. All the money arguments etc etc are completely valid and even more obvious. You all make fantastically well presented arguments, each correct in their own right. Given that...

Maybe you don't think so but most people outside Australia consider and extra Brumbies / Force bore-a-thon to be totally meaningless. And I had the misfortune of attending Reds Waratahs matches in the lats three years. I have already decided which blunt object I will use to poke myself in...

40 of the 40 (whatever) million don't give a toss about rugby buit at least thre is no NRL or AFL to worry about. Lee: Exactly. Money. SARU had to compromise to get the money. It is as simple as that. Where would a veto have left them? It was never an option. Gnostic: You make valid points...

The Currie Cup teams and Super Teams are commercially different entities. In some cases they have different contract structures. The CC is a competition with over 100 years history. Watering it down is not the answer. The Currie Cup involves other teams that donlt play Super Rugby. What...

Too late. Here it is: I think they are calling it the "Tournament within a tournament token white elephant fluffy toy cup to make everyone feel that the whole thing is worthwhile" although I must say it sounds a bit long to me.

Knuckles must like biltong a lot becuase I can tell you that Kimberley is not a great place to spend any time.

Backing England all he way. They have steadily improved and have more upside in them than any of the other teams. France will be up and down, Ireland don't have much improvement in them and Wales will be average with the usual added pre-match bravado. With England I can see a plan that...

Justin Harrison version 1. Prize ****. Version 2 in 2010 was harmless.

Google.

this one i admit has me baffled too

The most useless international no 3. Aftert all his injuries he can barely run. I just watched the 2010 Magners final. He jogs from scrum to scrum. Go watch the EOYT games where he came on. He is a liability. Will not suit S15 rugby. Simply too slow to make any impact. A prop needs to hit rucks...

As a Bulls man, I agreed 100% with you until November 2010. He stood up physically in the Ireland and English tests like I have never seen him do before. He is no mongrel 8 like Palu. But he is adding a tighter dimension to his play and it's becoming more and more convincing and he is becoming a...

Serious question. Do you really think so? I remember him slipping and falling over in a test match in Aus at some stage and it seems he has been labelled a poor defensive player since over here in Oz. His defensive record for the boks at 12 and 15 has been nothing but excellent and when he...

PS someone post a link to this thread on TSF. I need a good laugh tonight :)

Can't beast Smith for consistency. For all the good things he does, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) still turns out some avergae performance. Sharpe and Moore ahead of Vic and Bismarck? Come on boys. Homeboy selections rule OK?

Sure beats the typical post match cliches Proud of the boys Too many mistakes Didn't execute our structures yada yada blah blah

So you can look at a dick and know right away it's stupid? I worry about you. That's simply too much knlwedge about the wroooong thing. :)

Lee: I can underatsand the game RM try to play but they must be the most frustrating side to watch for a neutral. If there was EVER a team that plays to recipe, it's them. They don't care through, as long as the forwards dominate. If teams like Toulouse match them in the fatties they are...

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