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Guys, I am not arguing facts. Relax. No need to defend Tune. You guys think he was unfairly labelled, Saffers think he was a prize dick who got off scott free. There is zero point trying to argue that facts with one another. I am saying that one country will vilify the sportmen of another...

Stegman is a specialist openside. Has been very good in the lat few rounds. Personally I would have dropped Spies who is a big pussy, with Rossouw playing at 8.

True.

I think he was in the Sharks academy. What I am trying to say is that lot of this is based perception, for different reasons. Saffer perception of leniency in Australia comes from way back when Bet Tune basically got away with what looked like proven steroid use, as well as a punch right in...

Speak to any Saffer fan and they will tell you that Aussies always get off too light. I don't lean either way. It's pretty natural having that perception either way but I think they fuck it up about equally. Funny thing is that up to this point is it just me or Saffa teams have had an...

Definitely deserves a bronze life size statue to be erected at the entrance to Suncorp. "Daddy, who is that statue man?" "Ah my son, now that's a long story."

So in a final, the Tahs will throw caution to the wind and make fucking up Deysel a priority? Everyone's gone dotty in this thread.

they have played already this season so not sure what you're on about. The Force will have to wait until next year so they can execute him gangsta style.

So the Sharks can take revenge on the Force for Ndungane being dropped on his head ("he could have died you know") Come on. Don't get silly now. Maybe Carter will try to tackle a bit harded the next time they play but vigilantism? Don't be silly.

"dangerous tackling of an opponent without the ball." Brilliant. Genius. This is the mother of all botched judiciary rulings.

Bulls – 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 Jaco Pretorius, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Danie Rossouw, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Victor Matfield (c), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Gary Botha, 1 Dean Greyling. Subs: 16 Chiliboy...

The problem is that the coaches have never wanted to play Bakker at 4 and I think they never will. There is a belief that he is too similar to Vick. Personally I think they should trial them together in the 3N but that's unlikely. We will see Vic and Bekker being rotated instead. As for Danie...

Have you watched the last three Bulls games? I was one who thought Bakkies' days are over but he has been very good of late. Right now there is definitely no better option at 4 in SA for hard test matches. He should be used sparingly though. The likes of Januarie, Habana and Spies will all be...

Why? I think Joubert cannot be accused of bias.

I thjink of the ones you mention, only Ashley will really get a shot but I don't see him becoming a regular. He will be seen to be too short at 6 and 8. I think he will make an excellent impact player and would love to see him on the bench ahead of people like Kankowski who has been average...

Based on quite a few Toulon games I've seen, he is definitely still up to it.

Actually Paarl I though the Sharks youngster at TH settled their scrum down more so than the Beast. Never heard of the kid, can't even remember his name though. Please don't tell me he comes from Paarl :) The Cheetahs found space out wide late in the game. The reason for this is that vd Heever...

Oh the Tahs have every chance but at this point it would be an upset. The Bulls are running hot. Their breakdown work has been excellent and Olivier is making lots of yards as the forwards are getting the ball out quickly, which allows him and the other runners the opportunity to work up a head...

Just heard a rumor that some of Carter's team mates actually asked Deysel to hang on longer. They enjoyed the moment's silence.

Fatprop all true. The Tahs have had more critical injuries than any other team. However, if the season review at Moore Park goes something along the lines of "tough shit, boys, we have a bad injury run so let's just forget a bad season and look ahead," then all I can say is good luck Tah fans...