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Vicks could have run on, rolled his ankle and limped off and you would have still jizzed yourself.

Force 3. Hodgson 2. Sheehan 1. Smith Rebels 3. Saffy 2. Gerrard 1. Lipman

Try to Fritz Lee, palmed off Higgers like he was a school girl. Donald misses conversion, Chiefs down by 8 with 2 minutes to go

Chiefs have dropped alot of ball and lost a shed load of lineouts with De Malmanche throwing. Cooper has had a very good game kicking from hand, pretty much controlled the game and kept the chiefs pinned in their 50.

Chambers reasonable, nothing special. Ralph came on with 15 to go.

Samo coming on.

A few concerning stupid penalties being given away by the Reds 2nd choice forward pack though.

Great effort by Schatz to hold Leonard up over the line.

Looks like the Chiefs spent all week figuring out how to nullify the Reds backline, only to be dished up by a forward pack the Kiwis as a general rule don't rate. Reds have some brilliant talent coming through, great games by Gill and Shipperly.

He'll have to go to the Rebels (which is best fit under current circumstances). I just don't see any other options. The Force have managed to keep 4 world class backrowers happy in one team, and with Delve gone after next year it's only for 12 months.

Ripia converts Force 24 - Rebels 12

One try from a Kingi defensive misread, one try from a Vuna defensive misread. 2 tries in 2 minutes.

Try Stannard

Try Smith

Why do the Force only turn up against the ladder leaders? They're like the hurricanes of old but with even less success.

This is a pretty unenjoyable game to watch. Espescially from a Force fans point of view, knock on after knock on. And this ref is being particularly technical, which is detracting from the spectacle.

Who was the guy who was banned on Tuesday? Non static IP, this guy loves it.

Fixed for you. :)

No one owns players. If they can find the right renumeration offer to lure in every single Wallaby, good on them. The Force copped this bullshit for years, don't start on the Rebels now.

Phil Kearns splashed on a bit of man love for Tom Carter last night, with the arguments he presented, it had me wondering if he had in fact been reading this thread. Then Kafe came out and in support of Carter too, but really came across being quite condescending. It was the kind of support...