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The three scenarios that are being discussed in this thread appear to be: 1. The force lose massively against the lions no matter what team they field and increase their chances against a weakened waratahs. 2. The force put their best team against the lions and come close and lose to a...

No, I got it the very first time you wrote it. And the second time and the third. That's MY point.

You know how much the Force will get out of pleasing me, or the tahs fans, or the rebels fans? Zip. Nothing. Nil. You know how much they will get out of pleasing their fans? Continued allegiance and a strengthening of their fan base. Have you guys gone to NIB to watch a game? It's...

So, the tah fans here are telling the force fans what their team should prioritise? Wow, what arrogance. Pathetic. Go force!!!

You mean as a backup lock? Yeah, deans might just be into that. :P

Reds dominated and controlled the game for the most part - after an initial period of settling in to what the referee wanted them to do. Rebels were lucky to score their points and didn't really seem to click in attack like they had in previous weeks (the second try did not look like a charge...

I like the indigenous jersey a lot. The training shirts are even better. I may purchase one if they are available at the game tonight. (This thread needs some love).

But the EOYT will be a grand slam, so we can't have non experienced players picked. And the following year is too close to World Cup, so we can't pick non experienced players then. That is precisely the crap that will be sprouted when the EOYT comes around. There is always a reason in test...

Although we won tight games last year, we looked really unstructured in doing so. It appeared to be little more than scrambling defence mixed with a shit load of "never say die" attitude. Highly commendable by the boys, without a doubt, but pretty terrible to watch. To be honest I felt a bit...

and Beale.

Bummer about CFS and his hamstrings. Otherwise a decent side.

I am not so confident. The reds haven't had a tremendous year, and are still to play 60minutes of decent footy, let alone 80. The travelling rigmarole can't help preparations and they will be feeling pretty down about their tour. I really hope they lift.

Davies scores tries. That is the meat and potatoes of a winger. All the other shit you guys sprout is the gravy. If a winger has to be relied upon in defence, then there are larger problems infield that need to be sorted.

Yeah, I seem to recall him being used there - but wasn't sure. Given next year we are after a power winger, I thought he might be an option. Digby is going to be hard to replace - sure, but if we look hard enough I am sure we will get someone with some attributes that are also effective (if...

Is it possible for Nigel Ah Wong to play on the wing? I realise it is not his usual position, but he would be pretty devastating and be able to bend the line the same as Digby surely.

Seriously? Which pagan god have they failed to sacrifice to?

Gee, that's looking quite a bit worse than before. :( What a difference the front row makes.

You are right - it was quite good defence. I don't necessarily agree that it was the best I have seen this season - they defended well and we attacked under par exacerbating the relative differences of the two teams. Also, just re-reading my post I sort of smooshed my thoughts from this...

It was solid defence, but the reds attack was dire at best. I am wondering if the reds even train their attack moves fully, because they just don't seem to come off. It's like they are talking about what they are going to do in attack, they practice it once or twice at training and then...

Stormers the better team. Well done. Reds had nothing at all to counter the defence of the stormers.