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They're losing money no matter how they structure it.:)

Just wondering if you've been able to locate that page number for me.

Since you like talking about facts, maybe you missed the fact that last year I spent almost the whole year criticising the axing of the Force and the process that led to it. I'm not sure what you even mean by the gets your got comment. I made the quite simple observation that in the absence...

On the available evidence, we simply don't know. He might have been paid a bonus, he might have just been paid out part of his contract or he might have received nothing. In the absence of evidence it's unfair to comment. I'm not even sure that such a payment (if it even existed) would be...

I can't see anything in the Annual Report about it.

Some things that I couldn't help but notice: Match day revenues down $7.6 million Sponsorship revenue up $4.40 million (this is largely money from Force sponsors) Super rugby expenses up by $4.1 million (largely due to running the Force) Player costs up $6.9 million Reduction of $3.2 million...

There's a punchline there, but I'll leave it alone.:)

I'd be interested if membership statistics were avaialble. Anecdotally, I suspect that Waratah memberships are way down over the past 5 years.

Broadly speaking, I agree. Not sure about Newcastle, but could be convinced on the basis of evidence. I've suggested before a SOO type thing at the end, but we really only have enough depth for that to be a 3 way competition, NSW, Qld and Combined States. I think you'd need to have some...

Crowds have been in decline for some time. 2004 Reds v Waratahs round match drew 42,237 http://www.austadiums.com/sport/event.php?eventid=1958 2004 Brumbies v Reds round match drew 24, 017 http://www.austadiums.com/sport/event.php?eventid=1945 2004 Waratahs v Brumbies round match drew 37,832...

There's nothing wrong with admitting defeat, accepting reality and trying to work out a better way. In fact, it's preferable to the alternative which is to mindlessly plough ahead, Douglas Haig style, in the hope of success.

Yes, I recall that the 13s last year at Shore were quite strong. They were small though in comparison to some other schools, which may be significant when they hit 15s if there hasn't been some growth.

According to the 2016 NSWRU annual report (which is the last one I could find), the Waratahs lost $92,777 for the year and their accumlated losses were $205, 856. The Waratahs consolidated financial statement appear after the NSWRU financial statement, which is right near the end of the...

Agree, Super Rugby is sucking money and resources out of Australian rugby while fewer and fewer people in Australia are interested in it. The longer this goes on, the worse things will become for rugby in Australia.

I haven't watched them (and probably won't), but I just went onto the Waratahs website. In the 7 weeks of the compeition so far, they've had 2 games in Sydney, played games in Durban, Tokyo, Canberra, Argentina and a bye. How can a competition structured in this way generate public interest...

Other than the Scots 7s, Newington played internal trials today. Oakhill at Stanmore first week back at school.

They pulled out of 15As after/during the trials last year so this wouldn't surprise. Doesn't look good for 1sts in a couple of years unless ".........best left for the other thread.

I've advocated this before and it's by far the best outcome for Australian rugby- which almost guarantees that it won't happen. I for one have lost interest in super rugby. My only interaction with it is with the mainstream media, which means that I barely ever hear about it. I understand...

Happy to have been wrong in my tip. Winning at TGM always a difficult assignment.

They must follow the vote early and vote often doctrine.;)