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Agree, an 8 team domestic competition is the way to go. If planning was to start now and broadcasters, sponsors etc. were consulted during the planning stage there would be a much higher chance of attracting money. TV networks want content in prime time that will attract viewers. Super rugby...

An even bigger problem is that by the time that those at the top have finished, there's nothing left to trickle anywhere. Super rugby loses more than it makes for the game in Australia. Super rugby is a dead duck. It served a purpose for a while and for the first 5-10 years was of general...

Unfortnately hoggy, I think you're 100% correct. The people benefiting from the way the money is spent are going to resist change for as long as possible. Therefore the only way out is cataclysmic failure and bankruptcy - and we're well on the way to both.

Regardless of what the"real issues" are, the game cannot continue to spend more that in earns. No matter what spin RA and their supporters put on it, they can't escape the mathematics of it.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/rugby-australia-as-top-heavy-as-they-come-and-the-gamble-is-falling-flat-20180413-p4z9es.html First, RA is a top-heavy organisation; second, it is dangerously addicted to broadcast revenue; third, it is locked into a Super Rugby competition that is...

Some highlights/lowlights revealed in the attached article: First, RA is a top-heavy organisation; second, it is dangerously addicted to broadcast revenue; third, it is locked into a Super Rugby competition that is beginning to look like a burden; and fourth, the grassroots is still living on...

No, not all all. I simply point out that you also were talking about why Waverley fees were less expensive that some others. I agree with you that it has nothing to do with it. All sorts of schools, high, low and middle ranging fees produce well-rounded young men and women - including...

If you don't want to talk about fees, why do you keep bringing it up?

No, because if you go back over the past couple of pages, you will see that it was a number of Waverley posters who introduced the issue of fees into the discussion. If people are going to rely on the cost of fees as part of a discussion, it's perfectly valid for others to comment on fees. I...

With the greatest respect, it was a number of Waverley posters who introduced the cost of fees issue into the discussion, so it's only natural that others would respond. Including you it seems?

Very sad, but unfortunately all too common for young men who have been in the elite sports bubble since their teens.

And as has been noted a few pages back, Marcellin Randwick outperforms Waverley in the HSC for 1/2 the cost.

It doesn't infer anything of the sort. It's a construction that you have chosen to put on it.

No, there's all the all the difference in the world actually. Offering scholarships and/or bursaries to attract players to a school is completely different from people being recruited. Almost everyone who joins a school, club, team etc involves an element of recruiting. If someone says to...

I think you've somehow included you reply in the yellow box in between parts of my original post. What you say makes perfect sense.

Not at all. I only asked as last year when Shore withdrew from 15As they organised to play Cranbrook when the rest of Shore played Newington. Newington 15As ended up playing Trinity 15As, because apparently Cranbrook didn't want to play Trinity in that game because of size issues. Newington...

Out of interest, don't suppose that you know the score/result of the Trinity v Waverley 15As last year?

Although I didn't mention the word "scholarship" in my post (quite deliberately so). Very fortuitous for Waverley that a number of good rugby players all left one school for "varied reasons" and all had contacts at Waverley. Waverley clearly an attractive option for a range of reasons.

No problem, that's why I put it as a question to see if anyone knew. On face value a move from Trinity to Waverley seems unusual.

Did I read correctly on the GPS thread that Waverley 16As contain recruits from other schools, including some from Trinity? I'd always assumed that Waverley didn't recruit, but this is the second mention of recruiting there. This new format of school rugby seems to have increased the need to...