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Just watched it again paying attention to what Pickerill says - when Vest is still receiving treatment on the ground, Pickerill asks "is he going to stay on?" - shortly after, Pickerill says "we have a HIA so he's gotta go off." A bit of discussion between the trainers and Pickerill follows, and...

Hang on, aren't we doing mandatory (10 day?) stand downs for a failed HIA?

Really? Eddie suggested post-game it was only a small hamstring tweak

QC (Quade Cooper) wearing a GPS sock in the BaaBaas game

Yeah Makalio definitely didn't attempt to wrap at all and his arms went straight to ground. Frizell possibly made a half-attempt, but it was well and truly after the initial hit.

When people say 'TMO didn't look at it', it's usually in respect to the TMO not referring it to the on-field referee as potential foul play, and then making a collective decision. I went back and watched it again - the TMO relayed "no foul play" to Pickerill so no further decision making...

I don't think anyone has taken issue with their lack of immediate success on the field - that was expected. The issue is the poor execution of building their identity as a Pasifika side, with respect to both fan engagement and their extensive alignment with NZ at both a club and national level...

Edmed's new haircut has me wondering when the real slim shady will stand up

Yeah absolutely agree - again, it's about consistency. There's been a line drawn in the sand with similar incidents in the past, and this should have been no different.

Yeah, as others have said, it's the lack of consistency that's the biggest frustration. There were two clear-cut cases in this game which were broadcast, replayed on the big screen (O'Connor's definitely was), likely reviewed by the TMO, and probably met the YC threshold - yet there was not...

For those playing along at home and not checking the Reds' thread, Vest fractured his C7 vertebrae. The outcome definitely shouldn't determine the sanction, but it's difficult to fracture a vertebrae without direct and forceful contact. In hindsight, he really should've been medi-cabbed off too.

On a similar note, with Tate being out, do we continue to persist with Thomas or give Werchon a crack after his slap on the wrist?

Thomas' poor performance in attack aside, the Reds' backline really came down a peg when O'Connor was subbed for Paisami - a lot less cohesion and potency. Despite his strong performance, I would've liked to have seen Flook pulled for Paisami instead of JOC (James O'Connor).

As Dan said, Landers didn’t have the penalty there - granted, they should have, Zander got monstered again

Despite the loss, that was probably one of the Reds’ most complete performances of the season. Some amazing moments, a limited number of errors, and overall more polished performance. A huge team effort in the face of early losses to key players.

Fucking unbelievable. All landers points came from fucked decisions. Unbelievable

Paisami having an absolute shocker

Lynagh’s technique both off the tee and from the hand is sublime. Looks effortless.

Can’t imagine Brendon’s going to enjoy his on Monday

ARs and TMO haven’t said a damn word all game. Unbelievable