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........ The twins might not be getting paid this year but last year I know they called up wests asking for offers. Also Simmons and taps are the only TSS schooled reds players on the books for Sunnybank aren't they? Possible exaggeration on your part

Are you kidding? Full strength easts pack? And the gpsmand Sunnybank pack give me nightmares and I am 20m away in the can bar

Ps. I am happy to be wrong but I think if you look at the stats schatz and quirk will have similar readings. Schatz probably wins though

Well I may concede on schatz but if he is to be an 8 he does need to lift his running game as I would be interested to see his stats on runs taken to metres gained. The other to young flankers (cottrel and schatz) you have mentioned are in a far more competitive backrest team than schatz so...

Neither quirk or schatz have shown anything to be considered specialists in there positions and I think is one of those guys who plays 7 cause he isn't tall enough for 6 and 8. He works hard but doesn't set the world on fire. He will only play 6 now for the reds unless gill is unavailable. In...

He is a centre but let's see if he can crawl before he walks besides cummins defence needs to be there to steady the midfield

T12 you don't need me to tell you anything. But schatz isn't anything special either I think him and quirk are both much of muchness they do the shitters and get by but nothing they do is outstanding. Reds can't keep beau, quirk and schatz it's 3 of a kind

I have no doubt the reason for the success is their colts program. The depth they have is amazing they have kids coming out of the woodwork left right and centre. And all there stars probably were colts i was just saying they weren't juniors. Sunnybank reaped rewards from good financial...

Start in the forwards Paul alo-Emile, Greg Holmes And albert anae who played for pine rivers, toowoomba and souths respectively.

Its the way prem rugby works and souths have there share. I am not arguing what Sunnybank does is wrong or right but the argument that all those players were juniors in incorrect/invalid

With uni having Hanson leading the charge for them and perhaps maybe benefitting from some other cameos I can't see it going any other way

My bad mate started using an iPad and my grammar is out the window. Yeh apparently reds weren't going to take butler on a full contract they were hoping they could entice there first choice back to qld. But all they were offering was a rookie contract which didn't cut it for our young friend...

Oh, snap

I think east coast aces that players inserted in ian's place have a lot more to offer game plan wise. In regards to this year being an odd year. I Couldnt agree more I think as a whole the quality has been better but the problem is now that a lot of players have shot overseas for contracts or...

Also I heard on the grape vine butler wasn't first choice apparently they asked a young qld expat to come back easts but the deal wasn't as good as he was getting currently......read it as you will

I don't think this weekend against uni was his best game but he would be on par with matt Brandon and Dallas murthy or qld both who have had super 15 runs

Rand wick will rise again as will Gordon everything goes in cycles just ask parramatta

Been a key player for manly

I would also put daruda's hand up

Rohan is a a decent fly half and was fantastic at schoolboy levels where all he needs to do his perform the basics well and score run the plays but at the next level Rohan's vision is better for creating in broken play (counter from fullback) but in the games I have seen he doesn't seem to off...