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I think this should be a must read to many in rugby. Me thinks answers need to be found. However there will come a point the famous tipping point maybe when there will not be enough people who care, have the time and energy to implement change. I think its closer than many on this forum...

Nutter I have never been to an AFL match and the boss has dragged me to a few Mariners matches. I am looking at this purely at the age and passion of the fans. The Wanders fans [thats were we sat] seemed on the whole under mid 30's. I contrast this to recent test matches I have been too...

^^^^^^^ NTT Without trying to get into a contest on budgets and finances, lets assume you are right. However the cost saving, would be minimal and spread across the grassroots would IMO have limited affect. Pulver is trying to address it, so the issue is know and being worked on. IMO the...

On the finances my limited understanding and mainly from media reports is Pulver is doing an excellent job in getting to a break even position. Meaning credit were it is due. He seems on target to get the finances in order. He has with mixed results attempted reforms, TBH its better than...

Given the thread title the Roy Morgan chart in this article is worth looking at. http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6123-australian-sports-participation-rates-among-children-and-adults-december-2014-201503182151

^^^^ Not necessarily. Open debate if we keep to the topic rather than go after a poster is healthy. If we keep to not playing the man it makes it all the better. TWAS taught me something a little way back, If I can recall he had calculated that Australia's share of the SANDZZAR deal was...

From the 2017 schedule http://www.superxv.com/fixtures My understanding is 17 rounds at 8 games per round, thats 136 games. Plus Wallabies. Also as you said the 55 million includes the Tri Nations. Media reports said at the time all or most of the increase for Super Rugby was from Europe...

As I have always posted Super Rugby rates slightly more the A-L. Further let me acknowledge A-L owners have hugely helped with funding. Also let me acknowledge soccer participation rate means ads like Yoshi are impracticable and we would get torn to shreds especially on social media. Having said...

TWAS You point out some facts about the A=League, I have repeatedly posted rugby has slightly higher ratings if we compared Super Rugby with the A-L. However if we take a starting point and a code in disarray then that was soccer, broke, inept, corrupt. Today the only major code growing player...

Nutter Please go to the head of the class, INNOVATION. Your A-League example is perfect. I am so sick and tied of being bettered in the board room. Where is our YOSHI, I guess most have no idea who Yoshi is, he is a 10 year old Asian boy who is the key to the A-League launch this year...

TWAS Assuming your right on the costs. Other than more of the same do you have any alternative ideas.

Mate, I kinda give up, massive savings will be made to the existing cost base, with no overseas travel and accommodation. Massive saving can be made by playing out of smaller stadiums. Increase costs will be additional players. If we are smart we take the existing 5 Super teams and add a...

Why so negative???? We have a 60 million contract, lets assume the split between National and Super teams is 15 / 45. TBH I think it would be closer to 20 / 40 or 25/ 35 but being ultra conservative lets say 15 / 45. Lets assume a net cost savings - increase wages comes in about equal...

Could not agree more on how hard it will be and there is a lot of heavy lifting to do. Further unless everybody wants to head in this direction it will fall over. My concern is we are on a continual decline and we have a model that simply does not work in an Australian sporting context...

Rugbynutter39 I hear Ya, and hear many others, the cries IMO of people in many ways who have lost faith in what they hold dear. Unlike almost everyone else I don't think the net revenue fall will be anywhere near as bad as many predict. Essentially I don't see the revenue from the National...

yer i do and so what 77k. however you maybe right i am being overly critical. but maybe i am right and it reflects or is sign of a continual decline which we are not allowed to discuss. everything is ok the ncr is surging along with massive interest and water cooler talk across Australia...

That has to be the lowest number for a SA V Aust test. I am almost to scared to look at the AFL and todays NRL ratings.

Ok I know when an argument is lost. I don't share but hope I am wrong your feelings towards the NRC. In many ways my wants and recent posting in many ways are closer than they look. My want is in four years a competition capable of taking over from Super Rugby. Is that the NRC plus some Super Rugby sides...

BH Fully agree with everything you just posted. What I find incredibly sad is a lot has not changed, even today we have issues with many being jealous of the NRC, other annoyed at its scheduling and so on. Perhaps I expect to much, however I find our leadership overall to be reactionary...

TWAS & Wam To a limited degree I agree with everything you posted. That said I agree because of who we had in charge at almost every level of the game. The egos and self interest was putting it mildly intense, often internally driven, certainty disestablishing to attempts to normalise and...