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Word is that NO Div 2 teams want to go to Div 1. None will have any hope of fielding a 5th grade side. Subbies might be forced to bite the bullet and make each Div 8 teams which will mean 2 clubs maybe relegated from DIV 2 this year. With 7 weeks to go it looks like Saints will fill position...

Some players come to the difficult decision of choosing between retirement and dropping down to Subbies. The reduced trainings and less commitment allows them to juggle rugby life and non rugby life and allows them to keep playing the game. Who are we to tell a player he's not welcome in Subbies...

Interesting stuff. Bring back Matraville! There was nothing scarier than playing at Matto high opposite Long Bay jail.

Hate to disappoint but HH will win the Barraclough CUp with the team they have assembled. Naufanu, Leaateo and Rokobaro have over 50 test caps between them and having that size across the board will be difficult for BOBs to stop.

My mate at Newport said HH 1st grade was the biggest pack he'd seen running around subbies in 25 years. 11 new players from the first round clash.... but still says Breakers had their opportunities to win and didn't capitlise. Apparently some HH players were calling each other by jersey numbers...

Great wrap up on Campbelltown. Will be interesting to see how subbies reacts to Beecroft who are now forefeiting 3 grades a week in 1st Div. I recall Newport was put on a $2.5k bond this year after being honest with subbies around player numbers and forefeiting 4th grade last year. If I was...

Great write up. The Manly Daily give subbies club Newport plenty of coverage and Dean Ritchie from News Ltd (and number 1 ticket holder for Forest) makes sure the men in green get good coverage as well.

I'd like to hear from those defending player payments on this is good for subbies rugby? Hunters Hill has recruited players from St pats 1st grade for money. If they have secured others it will be interesting to see how they go against undefeated (and amateur) Newport this weekend. Imagine...

In theory when player payments cease next year we should see a significant shift of players leaving subbies and shifting back to grade?

Rumour is the player transfer market is picking up with some clubs getting the cheque book out as some 2nd Div clubs attempt to poach players to avoid relegation. Sounds like the rumour had legs as this weeks subbies rep program has one of the rep players named as from the Hunters Hill...

Speculation that due to overall club position, injuries, retirements etc that some of their better players are about to give it away. Might add it is massively 3rd hand info so could be way off. Looking at the comp ladders apart from1st grade club moral you could assume would not be high with...

I cannot agree witht colts decoupling from the club on game day. If colts are not part of game day they wont stick around. If you want to play colts and be isolated from grade go to shute shield.

I don’t subscribe to the total doom and gloom scenario but certainly rugby playing numbers are not what they used to be. It can recovered but will take leadership and flexibility from all levels of rugby. At subbies level clubs need to be open with the administrators and drop this false bravado...

It's just that time of year for many Clubs. There's a couple of clubs I've spoken to who's teams are doing well and just hope to stay in touch over the next few weeks through injuries and uni holiday's and just plain lack of enthusiasm. As for the Forest conundrum, that has been a turn up...

Big call Ozzie Bob with Oately and Blue Mountains to be relegated. Its a long way back for clubs like Saints to claw back 300 or 400 points. I had heard Mountains arent enjoying the 2nd Div travels so maybe they may lose momentum and drift lower as the season, away games and injuries take...

What do we know half way through the season. Div1 - St Pats are the dominant force looking strong across the grades, Petersham appear to have handled the move from 2nd Div well but a clear gap has developed between the compe and Campbelltwon and Beecroft. Kentwell Cup Tip - St Pats Div 2 - A...

Grade colts is under 20. We get guys come back after theyve had a couple years of fun at grade colts and dont want to pthen play grade and have one more year at subbies colts.

My original comment was any truth to the rumour. Sounds like the rumour may have had some legs though.

I acknowledge everything you are saying. The issue is that there currently are not enough top tier clubs to fill DIV 1. I understand mosman dont pay players but others do and will contiune to do so and that discourages DIV 2 clubs who are purely amateur from wanting to play teams that are semi...

The rugby geography is definately something that needs to be looked at and not only at subbies level. I like many of my friends are reviewing my sons involvement in junior rugby based on the travel. The travel stretches from the tip of the northern beaches to the southern districts, Dural and...