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More like there were more clubs than just Orange Emus and a few southern one team clubs forming part of the voting process.

No. Hooper went to school in Bathurst and Staniforth in Orange then Parramatta for a start. I'm sure there are a few Canberrans in there. That doesn't alleviate what I am getting at - I'm not being at all critical of either their pathway or their player development. What I am being critical...

I would understand your cynicism if the ACT/SIRU catchment produced more than a handful of its own professional standard rugby union football players per 4 year cycle. Edit: produced = played junior rugby there.

I agree, I can't see the Brumbies being cut. From what we have seen so far (financially), it would more likely be the Rebels......and it would then make more sense for Victoria to be absorbed into the Brumbies catchment rather than some half baked JV with the 6th NZ team.

'union fans in Australia'. As opposed to Australian citizens who are union fans'. Edit: I've just realised this is the SU\uper Rugby thread so I assume you're pointing out the dominance of Reds supporters.

I didn’t direct anything at you, it was about the general tone of the thread. We don’t know if we have the right people in charge or not, I’m prepared to give them a bit of time before making judgement though. The decisions and strategies so far seem to be a bit more equitable than those of...

Yes I think the holiday alcohol consumption 'hang-xiety' is causing a bit of an exaggeration. The code is not healthy here but it's not dead either. The right people with the right solution can revive it, we just aren't sure who the right people are and what the right solution is.

I think rather than a full merger of league and union a more logical shift would be to be able to select players from both codes to represent at national level. This would require some rule changes so that the players can readily shift between the codes, and would primarily, if not exclusively...

Happy new year everyone, back from my self imposed semi ban. I saw the article pop up on my feed yesterday and immediately thought of both of the comments above. Joe Schmidt is our man.

So if hypothetically the 'catchment' of Victoria were put up for tender you don't think the Brumbies would express interest in it? You know more about the politics than me but it seems a no brainer. Note, this is different to an enforced merger, I get the opposition to that. Edit: be careful...

Without referring to it as a merger, if the Rebels do fold it would be pretty logical for the Brumbies to absorb Victoria into their catchment. You are obviously opposed to the Brumbies being anything but Canberra and the southern half of NSW but rugby in Australia is at a crossroads and needs...

OK my bad, I thought they did. However he has citizenship somehow obviously, perhaps one of his parents was also born there, that qualifies him.

Easily if he happened to be born there

Presumably if they desire to work on his tackling technique they don't have to restrict the examples on the highlight reels to wingers, they might introduce a few centres into the conversation.

How to tackle properly maybe?

Having just sat back and quietly digested the Marky Mark (Nawaqanitawase) situation all week, I'm not as down on it as others. There are a lot of inputs to enter into the equation - the Wallabies/Waratahs environment(s), the lesser money for a switch to the NRL, even more potential money from France & Japan...

Re super rugby - Trans Tasman rivalry is the pinnacle of rugby in Australia, obviously stemming from the Bledisloe. If our teams are beating up Kiwis the product is superb. We need to be better, it's the pathways/grassroots that need the attention. Re Twiggy and the Dragons - $1.2m isn't...

Or if it's precursor to a full domestic pro comp (i.e. no Super Rugby). That would make sense as NSW and Qld are really the only states that could have more than one side in a national club comp (assuming a focus on local talent). So if there are 4 sides each from NSW and Qld in the initial...

The mods have put some automated acronym conversions in e.g. R and A becomes Rugby Australia, the best one was PVLs becoming 'the horse racing guy'. However as private equity was a topic at the time and a lot of people were using the P and E acronym, that one was used as well. Not to be...

Of course, my second paragraph was the more pertinent one. As a collective voting block the abstainers have leverage. I'm not sure why they would vote for the definition of insanity though i.e. doing the same thing over and again for another 20 years. My stance is that Hamish has to go, if...