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I know the Cheetahs are a bunch of no names, but you just expect with the size of the Rugby playing population in SA they'll be able to turn out a competitive team. Not looking so at this point.

Queensland Expats? All of the good ones play for someone else.

Fucking soccer cameramen, can't even track the ball in the air or keep it in the screenshot.

Yamada made that more difficult than it should have been. Dove too high in the air to give the defender the opportunity to carry him out. But a great try in the end.

Don't despair Rebel fans, they've traveled a long way in two weeks. Always bound to go flat at some point, 25mins in was a bit early, but luckily the Reds are really terrible. Tuipulotu looks likely. Certainly wasn't a sentimental inclusion, he looks like he belongs at this level. How good is...

Yamada would have been handy at the Force. Shame we couldn't hang onto him.

Awkward when the captain comes back for the Rebs. Meehan is playing so well Stirzaker will be under pressure.

If it was me, I'd have made one full one out of the dregs of a dozen randoms and left it there hoping someone would drink it................

There's a big online beat up about the Force resting players. I don't think It's warranted at all McCalman is an improvement. Ainsley surely can't be worse than Millar. Need to try something. This is a sensible move. Haylett Petty is a step down from Mafi, but Mafi's gone at the end of this...

Why would you want White either? He's such a double edged sword. He's a master coach, but ultimately because he's so good he can be selfish and other teams still want him even if he has acted improperly before. The way he bunked out on the Brumbies was a disgrace. Maybe the only thing worse is...

In fairness, the Ballymore car park is part of the world.

But seriously, this Reds board have a degree of culpability in this outcome never before seen in the failure of a team. To reappoint Graham when it was obvious to all and sundry he wasn't the man for the job, and then finally do him only 2 games into the new season is a clusterfuck of epic...

In these circumstances the group usually pull together and the head coach becomes more an equal in the process, instead of a leader. That's certainly how it seemed to be for the Force when we boned Graham.

Here we go folks, here we go. Reds significant press release at 3:30 today.

DHP is probably the 2nd best fullback in Aus currently. Morahan is looking better, but last season his attitude looked suspect. Like he was homesick and didn't want to be here. I think our real problem is 13. Tapuai is a better 12. Godwin is a better 12. Rasolea should be the bloke, but he just...

That's not to say I think Lance and Tapuai can't lead the Force to a winning season.

That's where you and I differ. I think we have improved with the addition of Lance, Tapuai and Masirewa. But neither of Tapuai or Lance could crack the best 15 at their previous franchise. Which tells you how low a base we're staring from. And I think that's because of the coach. No big names...

Tahu was the worst because he was a political pick. Daley is a genuine rugby heart through and through. Proud to have him as a Wallaby.

And the skills execution last night were poor. We also need a TH. Millar's either going to get better, get replaced, or get binned most matches. Ben Daley is not a formidable scrummager and he monstered Millar.

I wasn't disappointed at all. I have said it before, it doesn't matter if the Force play running rugby. It doesn't help our fan base, winning does. That's why I'm so critical of Foley deciding to completely change tactic after 4 seasons. We don't have the cattle to play like the Reds of 2011...