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I’ll let BR address this for me.

This guy fucking gets it. Gee some mediocre performers have been stalwarts in recent years.

Known winner and high performer Reece.

He’s being replaced by an out of form Kellaway and a 20 year old with less than 15 professional rugby games.

I don’t think anyone period would suggest they are ready for Test rugby (and not sure how we even got to this point). The discussion is based on talent and potential. They might not be ready now, but how will they look after a few years of professional rugby and seasons of Super Rugby?

Koribete has been our best winger for half a decade, and he was not much more then a run of the mill NRL player…

You’ve just shown it again. League would absolutely not have been on Carter‘s radar growing up on the South Island of NZ. JOC (James O'Connor) and Quade played the sport and would have followed it as well; it’s absolutely reasonable that they have an attachment to it. I hate to break this to you but most...

McCaw and Carter never played league growing up while O’Connor and Cooper played plenty. They also weren’t immersed in NRL culture like we are in Australia. Basically it’s a ridiculous comparison, and post from someone out of touch.

I guarantee Gordon’s short kicking game and cross field kicking will be much improved from some time in league. They focus far more on core skills than rugby in the halves.

Some players suit rugby better then league and vice versa; remember Tom Wright was basically an outside back squad member for the Eagles.

I know and I should have said that but my point still stands- I’ve never seen him to do it at Super level

Oh we’re definitely in trouble for next year.

Playing for the strongest domestic franchise, and an international series against Wales and Georgia, is not a bad way to pad the stats.

I think Rennie would have transitioned to Gordon but that’s moot now. There are better fly halves coming through the ranks- we should be able to write Lolesio off pretty soon.

Lolesio’s criticism is deserved; it’s not just the decision-making, it’s also his skill execution which is appalling for Australia‘s best fly-half. He passes behind the man frequently, catches the ball stationary, and never nails his cross-field kicks. Ikitau looked like a better ball-player...

Marce, Hamish Stewart has been playing Super Rugby for at least 6 years now, Michael Hooper had one or two seasons before picked. It’s probably an indication of their relevant talents and a terrible comparison.

I should have stated that it’s reasonable to argue that they are the best available (which is a low bar), but it’s not because of irresistible and consistent form over Super Rugby.

I didn’t say anything about other teams dominating so don’t create a strawman (but by inference there must have been 3 Australian teams who were higher performing and supported by their 9/10/12 axis). It‘s reasonable to say that Stewart/ Donaldson are the best available options we currently...

100%. The combination was so strong that it powered the Force to second/ third last on the ladder. The Wallabies used to be reserved for good/excellent Super Rugby players, now we’re at the stage where just being picked in a Super Rugby squad is the threshold.

Fantastic.