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And their right winger's defense was basically non existent.

I thought Slipper did well at the breakdown and well controlling the ball in hand. The scrums certainly never had an issue on his side. Robinson made no apparent difference when he came, but his mistakes are ignored - dropping the ball and being penalised for not rolling away. Hooper was good...

3 Folau 2 Cooper 1 Slipper

There is still a huge amount of provincialism going on in these threads - mostly it appears from Brumbies supporters! Hate for Genia (apparently White is the second coming). Hate for Slipper who had a good game (just because he caught the ball on the wing). Hate for Cooper who was close to...

I would be very surprised if Mowen is over 110 kgs. He certainly doesn't play like it.

Wake up Dumbledore. This didn't happen to Deans after less than 6 months in the job. The most galling aspect of criticism of McKenzie is the assumption he doesn't know anything about the scrum. We all remember what position he played and how well he played there, don't we?

Do you want him to publicly have a crack at his own team? How do you know he hasn't done so in private?

"If you're seeing one thing where you get penalised, and then later the same thing happens to the other side and the penalty is still against you, you go 'What's going on here?' He was right about this. First two penalties to England seemed fair, then on the third they do exactly what the...

Yes generally it comes down to ball skills. Look at some of the great 8's: Totai Kefu Zinzan Brook They had exceptional ball handling and passing skills. Higgers and Palu aren't too bad, Mowen is pretty poor.

Did Quade Cooper rescue us in his debut game against the Italians? Seems we have been shit for a while with 'no game a gimme'.

Actually I think a 7's turnovers often occur when the attacking player falls forward over the defensive player. In Australia's case this can happen after a half break by the opposition, or if a player like Fa'aingaa or TPN via a ankle biting tackle. In the all blacks case this often happens...

The opposition is trying to kill the ball by first keeping it up and then not allowing it to be played when the maul collapses. You can't see how that isn't really in the spirit of the game. If they instead had to be the team going forward - imagine how that would change the contest and...

The rules around when a ball is out don't make sense at all to me. When you kick for the line, the lineout is taken where the ball crosses the vertical plane of the touch line. And yet if I had go go gadget arms I could catch said ball 2m over the line and stop it from going out if my feet are...

To'omua came up to take it then gave it back to White. It was definitely White that stuffed it up. His over eagerness to kick is the real disappointing thing with his game though. 7 points down and ball on halfway - you don't need to kick for the corner everytime.

Good calls. The only ones that clearly outplayed their opposites (IMO), were: Fardy Cooper To'omua Kurindrani AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) Just need to add 3 more forwards to that list and we will be winning. :(

3 AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) 2 Fardy 1 Cooper

But Fardy still makes an impact physically so you can't use that excuse for the other two - Mowen in particular.

This must be our biggest backline since the likes of Mortlock, Sailor, Tuqiri and Latham got together. Exciting.

The bigger issue is that we have less depth and therefore less ability to rotate, not the fact we have one or two more tests a year. Afterall I suspect the kiwis would play more NPC games than our player turn up in club games (and it is obviously a higher level).

Are you suggesting that Palu runs primarily off the 10?