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can't think of another sport where you sit down and break bread with the guy who just broke your nose. It's a lifestyle, a brotherhood.

I wonder if they have a similar thing in senior rugby?

Bull fighting, racing and climbing are the only sports. The others are just games

thanks mate.

The Five ‘Tell’ Points of a Spear tackle. One missing its not a spear 1. Tackler is stationary. 2. Grasps the ball carrier below the hips. 3. Turns the player straight up. 4. Turns the player beyond the horizontal. 5. Drops or drives the player to the ground

Ellispark sold out. 60 000 for the promotion/relegation game leg2 for Super Rugby between the Golden lions and the Southern Kings

Staying with lost sons Fourie Du Preez included in the Springbok squad for the Rugby Championship http://www.supersport.com/rugby/springboks/news/130803/Fourie_du_Preez_back_in_Bok_fold

Do you know why they do not show much Premiership games on SA tv? Cause we hate them. We want to see them ones or twice a year beat them up and thats it. On a weekly bases no thanks. I think we should go back to Super 14. Australia should really benefit from Force and Rebels as one package...

And what you just did is what not whining? Nobody was moaning in the thread. The guy just read half the convo and made a presumption.

Win all your home games and you win Super Rugby. Simple, effective applied by the most succesful teams in the competition. The Chiefs were a bit below par this game but it was enough to see them through. Interesting thing is that teams start to work them out slowly. Next season will be...

First was it a ruck, tackle or open play? Recolonize the phase first. If it was a ruck then interpretation can get you different scenario's including hands in the ruck on 9. So it tells you that the ball was out. He is fair game to be tackled if the player came from a onside position.

Can anyone please just inform me how grass roots levels in NZ and Aus work and the law variation as well as amount of contact allowed? Also at what age they start playing contact and what age they start wearing boots.

Go back to what I replied to about the best provincial side in the world thingy. my reply to that and a couple of wrong perceptions from others is how we ended here now looking off topic and whining.

We are going in circles here and I think we should move on. To be honest I think there is something evry Saffer in here is holding back. We can't really talk about cause of fear as being branded with a stereotype profile. FIrst of all I am certain that most SA rugby supporters enjoy Super Rugby and...

The chip? I am not following you. Wasn't a rant but more of a joke. And a club side means totally different to us than in Europe or maybe in Australia. Club is a amateur side here. Province is a specific region and a franchise is a couple of provinces thrown together. And as a SA supporter it...

Yes I know they do it. Australia did it first in the Super 6 and Super 10. But you know SA always catching up to everything then f ing it up then getting it right finally. Thats us. We just did not expect the Kiwi teams suddenly having 5 NZ trails squads against some provinces with 1 or two...

State territory Ranch or whatever its still not a province and it is still players playing in that region combined into one franchise. Australia top players played in them. In 96 Northern Transvaal plaed with their players and could draw any player from the region next to it. All those smaller...

I was talking about the Kiwi's mate. Last time I checked Australia had states not provinces?

Its Franchises mate not provinces. Its a number of provinces combined to form one franchise.

If Louis Luyt was still alive he would have claimed the Chiefs are not the real Super Rugby champion cause the Lions were not in it.....