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  1. Rugby Central

    3rd tier is back in 2014 [Discontinued]

    Old teams, new teams, it doesn't matter. As long as they represent exisiting Clubs and tribalism, it will get the support. As long as each team is comprised of the clubs in their geographical area, fans will be willing to support that team. And, heaven forbid, it will create an easily...
  2. Rugby Central

    3rd tier is back in 2014 [Discontinued]

    For someone usually so well informed your immediate leap to the assumption, despite me categorically stating otherwise, that we try to entice Giteau et al. is misguided. Five or more levels below Aviva Premiership there is more money and opportunity than is offered by SS. There are 100's of...
  3. Rugby Central

    3rd tier is back in 2014 [Discontinued]

    The academies were never a viable "pathway". It was the main reason Australia has gone backwards as a rugby nation. Again, this new paradigm can only be of benefit to Club Rugby. Rather than creating some of the best trainers money can buy, guys would be playing rugby, learning on the job...
  4. Rugby Central

    3rd tier is back in 2014 [Discontinued]

    Hey Coach, Don't get me wrong, I think the ARU have handled this poorly but the Clubs do need to tread lightly here because what, in reality, can they do. You asked, where will the players come from? The answer is, from wherever there are players who want to play at a higher level. If the SS...
  5. Rugby Central

    3rd tier is back in 2014 [Discontinued]

    I beg to differ Coach. Mostly becasue there's not emough information to make that call. Secondly the ARU would have to follow through. Again form would be against this. Sarcasm aside, it could be the rejuvination of Club rugby if done right. The following is rose coloured spitblling but just...
  6. Rugby Central

    3rd tier is back in 2014 [Discontinued]

    Something that will need to be addressed with this new competition is eligibiltiy rules. Not some claptrap about stacking clubs etc, but given the number of Kiwis plying their talents in various competitions, does this risk becoming an ITM feeder competition. If you exclude people ineligible...
  7. Rugby Central

    3rd tier is back in 2014 [Discontinued]

    Do we need one.....probably not. But as this one relates to something that is actually happening, as opposed to the hopes and dreams of GG's contributers, it probably has more validity than many of the others. I say we find out as much as possible so that it doesn't decend into conspiracy...
  8. Rugby Central

    John I Dent Cup 2014

    Call it blind faith.....or stupidity.....but in the long term I think it will work out. At some point Vikings will again be the representative Club from Canberra (that spleen can be vented another time) which means it will have to divert funds from it's Canberra competition teams to the larger...
  9. Rugby Central

    John I Dent Cup 2014

    I thought in this day and age they didn't have to get them to "work at the bar" They could just pay them.
  10. Rugby Central

    Sydney Subbies 2014

    That's awesome. Well done! Will still barrack for whoever plays against you (except Drummoyne) :p but great for Club rugby in Sydney
  11. Rugby Central

    John I Dent Cup 2014

    Love the banter, but as an old Royals man, please don't stop the Viking baiting. Canberra Rugby just isn't the same witout it:D As I'm no longer in town, and my contempories have long jung up the boots, can anybody give an update on how people see Royals for 2014?
  12. Rugby Central

    Sydney Subbies 2014

    Unfortunately this only highlights what I was talking about. I good Club was left in a position that exposed them to a situation that shouldn't have happened. Full credit to HH- and any club that acts - to deal with this sort of thing decisively Good to hear things are going well and best of...
  13. Rugby Central

    Player movements for Shute Shield 2014

    How does anyone get promised a first grade gig. If you're good enough, you get picked, if you're not, then work harder. Great way to instill laziness AND piss-off the clubman.:confused:
  14. Rugby Central

    Shute Shield 2014

    I never suggested they come straight into division 1 or 2. Aboslutely come through the divisions. They could however by virtue of numbers come into Div 5, or even solve the Subbies "Div 4" problem. Interestingly though, if you've seen some Div 3 Subbies Rugby or higher, I think many SS lower...
  15. Rugby Central

    Sydney Subbies 2014

    Subbies definitely needs to find some sort of solution for Clubs. While coincidence is possible based on the scorelines of 28 - Nil here's how much Clubs are struggling for numbers. Beecroft 5th Grade – Forfeit 15 matches Hunter Hill 5th Grade – Forfeit 7 matches St Pats 5th Grade –...
  16. Rugby Central

    John I Dent Cup 2014

    Absolutely brilliant. As the ref says, "use it or lose it" NSW in particular has taken rugby players for granted for years. It's unfortunate that Sydney would lose so many players but at least somebody is interested in creating a pathway for young players.
  17. Rugby Central

    Shute Shield 2014

    For the "well run clubs" as Dave puts it, no such relationship is necessary. There is nothing stopping SS Clubs from entering teams into Subbies. Any player playing for the Manly, for example, are registered to Manly. And can play with whatever team they are selected for, regardless of which...
  18. Rugby Central

    Sydney Subbies 2014

    With everyone else getting next year's gossip underway, why not for the competiton at the heart of Sydney's Rugby loving fraternity. Rumour Mill So far: A number of Balmain and St Pats players moving to SS Clubs Newport to fall from Div 2 despite beating Kings...without a 4th grade Blue...
  19. Rugby Central

    3rd tier is back in 2014 [Discontinued]

    I'm with you on this one. Develop what exists rather than throw money away. Remove the sacred cow status of SS and watch Clubs like St Pats and Balmain put pressure on SS Clubs to perform. Also get rid of the lower grades from the competition. This will be blasphemy to most Club fans but it's...
  20. Rugby Central

    Shute Shield 2014

    3 - A desire to develop players to their potential 4 - they actually care about the game 5 - understanding that players don't just come from private schools 6 - the ability to follow through...on anything 7 - administrators that understand the game Sorry, don't have the time to continue with...
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