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In the respect of regrouping it might be good for St Ives but on the flip side it means a huge amount of travel added into the calendar. Not sure that would go down well with a number of the players

So has anyone got the gospel. Confirmed "rumour" Beecroft and Campbelltown to skip Div 2 and go straight to Div 3. Based on Current positions that put UNSW and Brothers up. Saving (currently) St Ives and Oatley. That will bring the Div 2 to the desired 8 but what happens to promotion and...

You're absolutely right about players wnating to play without making the kinds of commitment required from SS Clubs. The question is why is Balmian getting involved in the NRC and moving to Leichhardt Oval if they don't have ambition. It's seems and expensive waste of time to be the coolest...

Could be on any number of threads but here's as good as any. What about Balmain and St Pats moving to the Canberra Competition. They could get access to Brumbies squad members under their rules, Sydney players could play in Sydney and the big money is removed from Subbies. With Easts (ACT)...

I admire your faith and optimism. Unfortunately some clubs have outright told Subbies, "we will continue doing what we are and try your hardest". Or more colourful words to that effect. Rather than try and knock Clubs (The money) down a peg, why not create a semi/professional division. The...

So Subbies were told the situation, offered a solution, but Campbelltwon were told they were going to be punished anyway. Given there are some significant financial penalties imposed by Subbies, this sounds like extortion. Go Subbies - How to make friends and influence people.

As do I......just not in Subbies. At this level very few clubs (not enough to justify a full competition) have the kind of money to maintain player payments. The arguments about "haves" vs "have-nots" is not about some social equity, tall-poppy syndrome. It about making turning out for your...

What?!?!?! Players are getting paid at the moment? I've asked around and nobody is paying any players anywhere. Subbies should be able to hold on to all their players:p

May as well spend the money while they can. Idiots!?!?!?! I think this year has shown the structure could be thrown into complete disarray for next year. Paying money for anyhting could be an abject exercise in futility. Clubs like Redfield could jump straight to Div 2, while Beecroft heads...

It's just that time of year for many Clubs. There's a couple of clubs I've spoken to who's teams are doing well and just hope to stay in touch over the next few weeks through injuries and uni holiday's and just plain lack of enthusiasm. As for the Forest conundrum, that has been a turn up...

I like it but it does create it's own problems. Most colts are in the unskilled worker category relying on the hospitality industry. Saturday nights is when they're most needed to be at work by 5pm at the latest. Pretty hard to get cleaned up and wherever they need to go and ready to start. I...

It's not the scheduling that's an issue. If you're a 3 team Club with only a few extra reserves running around the lower grades, if 2 blokes get injured the week before Splendour in the Grass or Uni holdays or a good dump of snow, all of a sudden you're looking at either a forfiet or a hiding to...

I don't think it would be a matter of "people will not like this". On the contrary, I think most would love the concept. The problem is for any club below Div 1 or possibly Div 2, it's not worth the risk. The Clubs just don't have the depth to cover 1st grade players that get injured mid-week...

Yes it is but everyone must be prepared for the pain or support must be given to lower division clubs to attract players. Otherwise When Dundas get smahed by a thousand in rouund 1 by Campbelltown you might find few guys turning up for round 2. There will be some serious trauma to make it...

It might be bugger all to the CC points on the day but 300 as a punishment come the end of the season can really hurt. Interesting how someone from a club where there's no competition from other codes, in rugby heartland and more money from a single fundraising dinner than most clubs see in a...

I'm sure there's a PS joke in there somewhere......:p

Say it aint so......Between Vikings Park and the University grounds they should be able to get a number of games going. Couldn't be too hard to run East vs Tuggeranong on the main oval at Viking Park and Wests vs Royals on the back. With all that money spent Gungahlin should be open or could...

Yep. A single 1st grade win can be the difference between promotion or relegation. regardles of the success of the rest of the Club. That extra grade translates and the expectation of quality games translates into a $10K-$20K difference in bar revenue between Div 1 and Div 2. Factor in the...

Good News about St George. As for the other, as mentioned before lower the Club Champ points to make lower grades as important to the Club and there's little value in paying players.

Gossip (though probably unsurprising) A number of Clubs have told Subbies outright, "We'll just work around your rules on payments" Anyone got more to add - or deny - on this. Important Note - unsubstantiated gossip should be backed up with good humour.....or Balmain sledging:p