Joker, The 9ths can be deadly. You are right, it's full of boys who can play, but just want to play socially. At Joeys, years ago, before it was graded to the 14ths, it used to be colours, (9ths, Blue, Black etc. ). You could come up against anyone. Often others 4ths or 5ths whoever Jimmie Gray could get. Each year, a 9ths all stars was picked and had to challenge a team. In my case it was 4ths, They regularly won. In my case, 12-7. I like watching the lower grades, because they really enjoy themselves win lose or draw. 5 all, a good result.