CAS Rugby 2023

[Running_rugby_1954]

I am confused as to how this means Barker broke a rule

Dispensation is required

The following criteria must be met before a student can progress to assessment:

• The date at which they turn 19 must be after the last round of the competition (in 2018 that is after August 11th). Born 25th Dec 1999.
• The student must have been enrolled at the school for the February Census date for year 10 of their cohort (for 2018 they must have been at the school in year 10 in 2016) enrolled at Green Point CC in 2016 for year 10.
• The player must be below the height and weight guidelines set by RA. The current guidelines are H190.73cm W101.89kg
• The player cannot have played 1sts and 2nds for the previous 2 years played first XV in 2016 and 17.
• The player will only be allowed to play 3rds or below. Played first XV

 

[Jumping_jack]

Dispensation is required

The following criteria must be met before a student can progress to assessment:

• The date at which they turn 19 must be after the last round of the competition (in 2018 that is after August 11th). Born 25th Dec 1999.
• The student must have been enrolled at the school for the February Census date for year 10 of their cohort (for 2018 they must have been at the school in year 10 in 2016) enrolled at Green Point CC in 2016 for year 10.
• The player must be below the height and weight guidelines set by Rugby Australia. The current guidelines are H190.73cm W101.89kg
• The player cannot have played 1sts and 2nds for the previous 2 years played first XV in 2016 and 17.
• The player will only be allowed to play 3rds or below. Played first XV

Wow. That’s crazy.

So he played in the team?

Premiership should be Waverley’s then if they cheated. Unless Tino can play this year this is a bit of a joke.

 

[RedOrDead]

I don't know if the same rules apply to the GPS but multiple GPS schools have done the same. Who cares.

 

[Jumping_jack]

I don't know if the same rules apply to the GPS but multiple GPS schools have done the same. Who cares.

So Tino can play?

 

[Running_rugby_1954]

So Tino can play?

Excited to see redordead’s thoughts on this one.
But I imagine he will say no.

One rule for Barker, one for everyone else.

Age dispensation.
Concussion Laws
Blue Cards
Coach microphones

All these rules and more have been abused and broken in the last few years by Barker and there has been no change or punishment.

 

[RedOrDead]

Excited to see redordead’s thoughts on this one.
But I imagine he will say no.

One rule for Barker, one for everyone else.

Age dispensation.
Concussion Laws
Blue Cards
Coach microphones

All these rules and more have been abused and broken in the last few years by Barker and there has been no change or punishment.

The Ned Slack-Smith blue card scenario was incredibly stupid grow up.

The coach giving his players ear-pieces didn't happen you absolute sheep.

And no. I do not care if "Tino" plays. Kings have done it for years. Colts have kids from 16-20 playing against each-other. In fact I hope he does play. Maybe the Waverley boys will finally stop crying about the Narcessian scenario.

 

[Famed_Star]

I can confirm Tino has been denied the chance to play this year by CAS.

One rule for Barker “import as many as we can and break every rule College”, another for every other team.

 

[AroundTheAnkles]

Knox plays school year group from 7-10

Then Knox gets the good youngsters to repeat year 10 to bolster the lower age group. There are at least 2 examples of that in the 16’s this year.

 

[AroundTheAnkles]

Chatting with friends from Joeys and Oakhill on the weekend and they go by birth year rather than school year.

Joeys will allow and or recommend very exceptional players to play up an age group if that is the best thing for their development. Generally that only happens at the 16’s to opens juncture but occasionally in younger years as well.

 

[AroundTheAnkles]

I don't know if the same rules apply to the GPS but multiple GPS schools have done the same. Who cares.

Out of interest, which schools and players?

 

[GAURIIIIIIII]

Bit out of context but another noticeable difference I saw last year was Tom Girle (5), Cranbrook 2nd row, Before injury we saw many line breaks and was shaping to be a part of the CAS 2s team whilst being a year younger. Post injury he was a bit more cautious. So it will be very exciting to see what he can bring as he should be match fit. Him playing alongside Cranbrook's promising forward pack should be a very scary sight.

 

[RugbyBot]

Then Knox gets the good youngsters to repeat year 10 to bolster the lower age group. There are at least 2 examples of that in the 16’s this year.

They don't repeat year 10. The boys who were playing up an age group to play with their school year drop back down to U16s at year 11 unless they are going to play 1sts. So Knox U16s is usually a deeper age group as the younger year 11s fill out the year 10s.

 

[RedOrDead]

Out of interest, which schools and players?

Kings have had Callum Conroy and Luke Osbourne from the top of my mind.

 

[Famed_Star]

Excited to see redordead’s thoughts on this one.
But I imagine he will say no.

One rule for Barker, one for everyone else.

Age dispensation.
Concussion Laws
Blue Cards
Coach microphones

All these rules and more have been abused and broken in the last few years by Barker and there has been no change or punishment.

How expected.

The blue card debacle was a terrible terrible moment. The fact the player was allowed to continue playing after being concussed so badly is beyond reprehensible with everything we now know about player safety and concussions. And to ignore the blue card from the referee and still continue to say things like,

“The Ned Slack-Smith blue card scenario was incredibly stupid grow up.”

Just shows how Willing they were to put their own kids at risk for success.

 

[AroundTheAnkles]

They don't repeat year 10. The boys who were playing up an age group to play with their school year drop back down to U16s at year 11 unless they are going to play 1sts. So Knox U16s is usually a deeper age group as the younger year 11s fill out the year 10s.

hmmm, you should probably check your facts. Anyway, I think it is a good thing for the boys concerned, time to develop academically and physically can't be a bad thing.

 

[Halfbackenthusiast]

How expected.

The blue card debacle was a terrible terrible moment. The fact the player was allowed to continue playing after being concussed so badly is beyond reprehensible with everything we now know about player safety and concussions. And to ignore the blue card from the referee and still continue to say things like,

“The Ned Slack-Smith blue card scenario was incredibly stupid grow up.”

Just shows how Willing they were to put their own kids at risk for success.

How do you know the level of his concussion was “so bad”? Were you the physio that observed him and for that matter passed him? It’s time to move on let’s focus on the season to come should be a close and ripping season

 

[RedOrDead]

How expected.

The blue card debacle was a terrible terrible moment. The fact the player was allowed to continue playing after being concussed so badly is beyond reprehensible with everything we now know about player safety and concussions. And to ignore the blue card from the referee and still continue to say things like,

“The Ned Slack-Smith blue card scenario was incredibly stupid grow up.”

Just shows how Willing they were to put their own kids at risk for success.

He wasn't concussed. Wasn't even a head knock. He was cleared by physio and a doctor... imagine caring so much about schoolboy footy that people in this forum create conspiracies in order to have a whinge... genuinely embarrassing. If this is you you should have a good hard long look at yourself.

 

[Famed_Star]

If this is you you should genuinely have a good hard long look at yourself.

Pot, Kettle, Black.

 

[Famed_Star]

How do you know the level of his concussion was “so bad”? Were you the physio that observed him and for that matter passed him? It’s time to move on let’s focus on the season to come should be a close and ripping season

The ref gave him a blue card and he had several stage one signs of concussion. Only Barker would do anything except follow the expected protocols.

And obviously they did the wrong thing because Australian Rugby came in and said he wasn’t allowed to play for the CAS game. So, maybe Barker are more important than Aus Rugby, but they still weren’t allowed to let him play and failed to follow appropriate protocols… as is consistently the case.

 

[RedOrDead]

The ref gave him a blue card and he had several stage one signs of concussion. Only Barker would do anything except follow the expected protocols.

And obviously they did the wrong thing because Australian Rugby came in and said he wasn’t allowed to play for the CAS game. So, maybe Barker are more important than Aus Rugby, but they still weren’t allowed to let him play and failed to follow appropriate procedures… as is always the case.

If a doctor and a physiological both clear him he is fine to play. This isn't soccer. If a player had to sit out every time they had a head knock no-one would play...