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Win Free INVICTUS the movie tickets from G&GR!

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Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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Finally! A Rugby movie! We don’t get many do we? You can say “This Sporting Life” with Richard Harris, but that’s league. So desperate are we rugby pundits for some Hollywood action that we’ve claimed the likes of The Motorcycle Diaries and Monty Python’s Meaning of Life.

And personally? I’m over all these flicks about American sports. Sure there can be some crackers – Major League, The Natural, Any Given Sunday. But for every Bull Durham there’s a half a dozen Angels in the Outfield and The Replacements. But what we wouldn’t give for a rugby version of even The Longest Yard or Semi-Pro.

Well now we have Invictus. Set around Nelson Mandella’s efforts to end apartheid in South Africa, the 1995 Rugby World Cup serves as a significant backdrop. In fact one of the leading Hollywood draw cards, Matt Damon, plays Springbok skipper at the time, Francois Pienaar.

The movie is released in Australia on 21 January, however has been out overseas for a few weeks. Reports vary. The movie critics have called it Oscar bait, due to its emotive subject and key players. Damon as Pienaar, Morgan Freeman as Mandela with Clint Eastwood directing are all previous Oscar winners. The Rugby folk seem to have made two observations. First, Damon is too small to play Pienaar and, secondly, the rugby plays a minor part so is hardly a rugby movie.

In answer to the first part, well, come on. This is Hollywood. Joaquin Phoenix played Jonny Cash, half a foot shorter than the man in black. Conversely, Denzel Washington was about half a foot taller than Ruben ‘Hurricane’ Carter. Funnily enough even Matt Damon recognises the discrepancy. On meeting Pienaar for the first time, and being towered over, Damon’s first words were “I look bigger on film”.

As to the 2nd ‘complaint’, well beggers can’t be choosers can they. Hell, if Step Brothers can be promoted as a comedy despite being devoid of laughs, then surely we can claim this a rugby movie. Check out the trailer here:

So great. It is a rugby film, and it looks pretty damn awesome. But where is OUR film? Ok, fine. The 95 RWC win by the Boks was the stuff of legend. Nelson Mandela? Big story. Apartheid? Big story. But come on! What about a blockbuster about the Wallaby victories of 1991 or 1999? Even 2003 would be a thriller worthy of any John Grisham adaption.

So here’s your challenge. Village Roadshow have given Green and Gold Rugby a number of double passes to see Invictus, opening around the country on 21 January.

So to win, we want to hear your pitch. Cast for us the key players of one of the Wallabies’ most memorable campaigns – be it World Cup, Lions or Bledisloe. It is the Hollywood movie we’ve been crying out for, but who stars in it?

Entries can be e-mailed to noddy@greenandgoldrugby.com, with the prizes only available to Australian residents. Entries close on 20 January and the tickets will be sent out after that!

We will publish the best entries for all to share
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Firstly: MATT DAMON!!! (Team America fans will get that... maybe)

Secondly:
Gagger said:
Hell, if Step Brothers can be promoted as a comedy despite being devoid of laughs

Wash your mouth out. Step Brothers was comedy gold.
 

eddo

Larry Dwyer (12)
I got to go to the November preview here in Portland.

Overall the movie is pretty good. Coming strictly from a movie goer point of view.

As an Aussie rugby player you need to go in with a "any exposure for the sport is good" kind of attitude. Certainly the movie won't sit well with the Kiwis! ...

The biggest ommission from the storyline is that the All Blacks aren't food poisoned the night before the final - although Mandela (M Freeman) does mention 2 or 3 times that they will have to do something radical to beat the mighty Jonah Lomu.

As a Saffa - the accents are toned down so the rest of the world can understand what the fuck they are saying. Fair Enough. It definately pulls at the heart strings for the equal rights people, and the references to black racism in the early stages of the 90's are very much on the mark.

The rugby itself is a mix of actual footage (10%) to actors who have no idea what they are doing (40%) to the ref who clearly has never seen a game before and blows 20 penalties during the film for which he uses the same non-existant signal of what the penalty was for !!! (50%) Maddening.


3 Stars for being a rugby flick. But that lack of tits, a convincing scrum and a distortion of the facts as to how SA won somewhat ruined it for me. for the record the yanks loved it.
 
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Yeah, I didn't get what the referee was doing. I thought Mandela's accent was just too American like. But otherwise it was a decent film, I found all the flaws in the rugby part of it, but I'm happy something like this has been done.

Matt Damon has previously played rugby in a film, forgot the name though.
 

MrTimms

Ken Catchpole (46)
The accents leave a bit to be desired, that is for sure.

My memories of it was that the big thing was Mandela showing up at the final in the jersey, but very little is made of that.
 

Thomond78

Colin Windon (37)
The biggest problems with Morgan Freeman's accent are a) he doesn't rrrrrroll his rrrrrr; all black Saffies do (and Boere, too, btw). It's a noticeable feature of how Mandela speaks. b) He speaks way, way, way too fast; Madiba measures every... ah.. word he... ah... chooses, with the... ah... result... that his speech has... ah... significant... pauses. Whereas the bould Morgan doesn't.
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
watched it last night, really dissapointed, good cast, great director, thought there was just a bit much lovey dovey, every scene seemed to be built around a hero shot or a soundbite, there was no downtime or getting to know the characters that much. also it was weird that through winning matt damons folks became less racist but it was never explained why.

if you want a fantastic rugby movie hire "forever strong" its one of the worst movies ever made and shows just how americans view rugby, the guy changes from wing to hooker in a single game and becomes a hero american who does the haka for no reason. brilliant!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3C2HvQ8KFE
 

cheezel

Bill Watson (15)
waratahjesus said:
if you want a fantastic rugby movie hire "forever strong" its one of the worst movies ever made and shows just how americans view rugby, the guy changes from wing to hooker in a single game and becomes a hero american who does the haka for no reason. brilliant!

What a piece of shite that was. Favourite quote of the movie "You're a good winger, but i think you would make a great hooker." pfftt
 

waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
cheezel said:
waratahjesus said:
if you want a fantastic rugby movie hire "forever strong" its one of the worst movies ever made and shows just how americans view rugby, the guy changes from wing to hooker in a single game and becomes a hero american who does the haka for no reason. brilliant!

What a piece of shite that was. Favourite quote of the movie "You're a good winger, but i think you would make a great hooker." pfftt

isnt it 'hook', 'i played hook' an then the father coaching the opposition who hates the coach cos he played him out of position and he got injured, its just brilliantly bad. i actually think Invictus gives it a run for its money, although invictus isnt a rugby movie as much as a hero worship of mandella at every turn.

just utter self absorbed crap.
 
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waratahjesus said:
watched it last night, really dissapointed, good cast, great director, thought there was just a bit much lovey dovey, every scene seemed to be built around a hero shot or a soundbite, there was no downtime or getting to know the characters that much. also it was weird that through winning matt damons folks became less racist but it was never explained why.

if you want a fantastic rugby movie hire "forever strong" its one of the worst movies ever made and shows just how americans view rugby, the guy changes from wing to hooker in a single game and becomes a hero american who does the haka for no reason. brilliant!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3C2HvQ8KFE

I saw that movie, and man it was shit. It was an embarrassment to the game of rugby.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
waratahjesus said:
just utter self absorbed crap.

Riiiiiggghhht. So let's see. The Americans think it's a good idea to make a movie about Mandela and you call is self absorbed? Just who is it that is self absorbed? Mandela? If you knew the smallest, tiniest, most miniscule bit about Mandela you would realise that nothing can be further from the truth and he is indded one of the most selfless leaders the world has ever seen.

But I gather you went to watch the movie to see some rugby moves so I am really wasting my breath. Don't venture too far away from Die Hard son.

After watching that Forever Strong trailer, does anyone know if the director wasted himself out of sheer embarassment?
 
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