Will Chambers

[Ruggo]

The Reds backs are on fire. Deans is going to have to look hard at if he wants to risk breaking the combination they have formed. That is my justification for selecting the entire Reds backline. I see players from other franchises making an awsome bench. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Gits and JOC (James O'Connor) would cover the entire backline well.

 

[Scotty]

Interestingly, I read a while ago on this forum that Horne is something of a talented ball player too. Would it be unreasonable to consider a Horne/Chambers 12/13 centre pairing? It would be somewhat unfair on Fainga'a, I admit.

If Horne's body holds together, I wouldn't be surprised for this to become a great centre combo for the Wallabies.

I'd just like them to play together at provincial level to really set up the combo, ala Horan/Little, Horan/Herbert and Giteau/Mortlock.

 

[Reddy!]

Agree that there is no problem with Chambers forcing Digby out to the wing. Half the time it's Digby running up the centre channel and Chambers out on the wing (trying his little chip kicks). Numbers on the back can be irrelevant if the game plan dictates so.

See how Chambers goes this next few weeks, I like the look of him.

I'm really hoping A. Fainga'a makes the Wallaby squad, he is such a classy player.

 

[TOCC]

Chambers showed a nice kick in the first 2minutes last night as well

 

[Scotty]

Although I could agrue that he should have passed it back on the inside.

 

[en_force_er]

I don't think a soul would deny Chambers an Aus Barbarians starting guernsey and a Wallaby Spring Tour spot but the best thing for him to do right now is play lots and lots of rugby.

I wouldn't be disappointed or surprised if he got a Wallaby squad spot for the Bundy internationals/3Ns but I think he'd be better off plying his game in clubland and reacquainting himself with the nuisances of union.

Yes, he is playing well, and yes, he has a future, but the man has only played about 8-10 union games in the last 4 or 5 years.

 

[James Buchanan]

I don't think a soul would deny Chambers an Aus Barbarians starting guernsey and a Wallaby Spring Tour spot but the best thing for him to do right now is play lots and lots of rugby.

I wouldn't be disappointed or surprised if he got a Wallaby squad spot for the Bundy internationals/3Ns but I think he'd be better off plying his game in clubland and reacquainting himself with the nuisances of union.

Yes, he is playing well, and yes, he has a future, but the man has only played about 8-10 union games in the last 4 or 5 years.

Aus Barbarians is probably the right place for him. I was thinking in terms of the Spring Tour last year etc..

 

[en_force_er]

Actually, I'd be looking to get him a Curry or ANZ cup spot then I'd take him on the Spring Tour.

Get as many professional rugger games into his leg's as possible.

 

[James Buchanan]

Actually, I'd be looking to get him a Curry or ANZ cup spot then I'd take him on the Spring Tour.

Get as many professional rugger games into his leg's as possible.

I think getting him around better quality coaches and opposition is a superior option.

He'll do fine in the curry cup or ANZ without really stretching himself.

 

[Ruggo]

If you are playing well in super rugby there is only one place to go for increased coaches. Let Deans work with him. Sending to an overseas national competition would be an embarisment to Australian rugby.

I would like a comp between the 5 Aussie super rugby sides, while the international season is underway. The gaps left by Wallaby players to be filled by the next up and comming talent in order to build increased depth. These matches to be played outside the major centers in an effort to expose the rest of the country to top class Rugby.

 

[en_force_er]

All good point but it comes down to superior coaches V superior regular games.

If he stays in Australia he'd probably play England A and might be lucky enough to get off the bench for the Wobs against Fiji or England. On top of this he could play some NSW or QLD club rugby. This is all dandy but it just doesn't compare to the prospects of playing ANZ or Curry Cup.

Nobody would argue he would benefit from being in a setup with a good coach like Deans but to me clocking the playing minutes is priority 1 for Chambers and ANZ/Curry Cup trumps the Shute Shield in quality.

 

[TOCC]

All good point but it comes down to superior coaches V superior regular games.

If he stays in Australia he'd probably play England A and might be lucky enough to get off the bench for the Wobs against Fiji or England. On top of this he could play some NSW or QLD club rugby. This is all dandy but it just doesn't compare to the prospects of playing ANZ or Curry Cup.

Nobody would argue he would benefit from being in a setup with a good coach like Deans but to me clocking the playing minutes is priority 1 for Chambers and ANZ/Curry Cup trumps the Shute Shield in quality.

screw that, keep him in australia playing in the premier grade weekly and the odd australia a game

 

[Biffo]

All good point but it comes down to superior coaches V superior regular games.

If he stays in Australia he'd probably play England A and might be lucky enough to get off the bench for the Wobs against Fiji or England. On top of this he could play some NSW or QLD club rugby. This is all dandy but it just doesn't compare to the prospects of playing ANZ or Curry Cup.

Nobody would argue he would benefit from being in a setup with a good coach like Deans but to me clocking the playing minutes is priority 1 for Chambers and ANZ/Curry Cup trumps the Shute Shield in quality.

screw that, keep him in australia playing in the premier grade weekly and the odd australia a game

Yes. Just look at how players improve under Robbie D's management.

 

[en_force_er]

Yes. Just look at how players improve under Robbie D's management.

I would usually agree but Chambers is a notable exception because he hasn't played much Rugby since he finished school. He is 22 or 24 now (I forget). That is a long time with very little rugby.

I would structure his Post S14 time as follows. Play Prem grade/Aus Barbarian games till they are all done and dusted then join whichever Curry or ANZ cup side that promises to start him. Then when that is all done have him join up with the Wobs for the Spring tour and see how he goes. Basically have him playing a whole lot of rugby.

After that rest him up for 2011. It'll be a huge year for him.

I think he'd stand to benefit from a much higher games to training ratio than the average S14 player just because of his situation but that's just me though and I'm no coach (unless you count the U13 team I've just started coaching :thumb)

 

[Lee Grant]

I was amazed with Link dropped Turinui (who wasn't playing too badly) and stuck Chambers in. Link was right yet again.

It was well done by Link wasn't it? I was a bit disappointed in Chambers at first and wondered why he wasn't cracking the Reds starting team. Yeah he came from league but he had played in the 1st XV for Nudgee College before he went to the Melbourne Storm. When he came back to rugby union it looked like he hadn't played the game before. It's fixed now though, isn't it?

there is no problem with Chambers forcing Digby out to the wing. Half the time it's Digby running up the centre channel and Chambers out on the wing (trying his little chip kicks). Numbers on the back can be irrelevant if the game plan dictates so.

That's right - I would rather have him on the wing in defence, but come in fizzing around wherever he likes on attack. I have not been impressed with him reading the opponent's moves as the defensive 13.

I would like a comp between the 5 Aussie super rugby sides, while the international season is underway.

There's not many of us that wouldn't. We'd probably start it a bit later, beginning of August, so the club season can run to the end of July. This is what they did for ARC? Correct.

All we need is the money to pay for the comp. It should pay for itself? Unfortunately not; not in this country.

 

[TOCC]

Nah, keep him in Aus and boost our own competitions....

It's not purely about Will Chambers, playing in the premier grade will boost the players around him by helping them develop, not to mention boost the club and fans...

 

[chief]

News on the club he's playing for?

 

[Ruggo]

I would like a comp between the 5 Aussie super rugby sides, while the international season is underway.

There's not many of us that wouldn't. We'd probably start it a bit later, beginning of August, so the club season can run to the end of July. This is what they did for ARC? Correct.

All we need is the money to pay for the comp. It should pay for itself? Unfortunately not; not in this country.
[/quote]

Money. Taking the comp out of the major centre could encourage govt funding. I can't speak of other govts but the Territory govt funds nuerous sports to bring the elite level to the Territory. AFL, NRL, Basketball, V8 supercars, Cricket are examples. Ironic as this thread is about Chambers who is from Gove in the NT (western side of the gulf of carpentaria).

I am sure the tops at the ARU are to busy stuffing their faces with wine and cheese to be proactive on growing the game.

 

[dobduff11]

Did antone else notice the impact Will Chambers had on the rucks. I was surprised as usually league converts tend to stay away from rucks because they haven't been taught how to ruck properly.

Chambers however got a couple of turnovers and looked like he had been playing Union for a while.

Great offloads too

 

[Viking]

AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Chambers & Horne are all interesting 13 options. Each is a good defenders, beats a man, runs good lines with Horne and Chambers more likely to set up an outside, but AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) has a better chase, leg drive and aerial skills.

Nice position to be in really.

edit

that said, neither Chambers & Horne are ready to start a tri-nations match

Totally Agree. However as its only a year out until the RWC. Id be perfectly happy for one of them to start a tri-nations game.