Who would be Wallaby captain for RWC if Rocky isn't fit?

[TheTruth]

We can talk about captains and captains - this year is the RWC and experience is essential - besides it is toooooooo much pressure on a young blokes like Pocock or Genia - we want them to play the game as well as they can without the distraction of captaincy. So Sharpie is the go

 

[Blue]

I would actually like to know why people would want to choose Pocock?

Based on what qualities and experience as a captain?

Or is it a typical case of great player so make him captain?

Real question. Not a dig at Pocock. I've heard commentators talking about him being touted as a future Wallaby captain. Based on what credentials?

He is reasonably well spoken in interviews but that is hardly a measure.

 

[Godfrey]

I think it's that he fulfils the criteria of being an automatic pick and an 80 min player as well as being quite inspiring. He always seems to be the one pulling the forwards in for a chat in tight situations or after a try has been scored and is often seen giving the referee/teammates a talking to when needed. And all in a seemingly quite positive way.

 

[Bowside]

Off the field he seems like a genuinely good bloke, well spoken, humble and doesnt mind a joke. He also does alot of social justice stuff in his spare time.

But I think he needs to captain his province before he captains the wallabies. I think rocky should of had to as well.

 

[waratahjesus]

Off the field he seems like a genuinely good bloke, well spoken, humble and doesnt mind a joke. He also does alot of social justice stuff in his spare time.

But I think he needs to captain his province before he captains the wallabies. I think rocky should of had to as well.

He does social justice stuff in Africa though when the real charity he should be working on is Australian rugby

 

[ChargerWA]

He does social justice stuff in Africa though when the real charity he should be working on is Australian rugby

Some would already say that's where he does his best work.

 

[Brumbieman]

We can talk about captains and captains - this year is the RWC and experience is essential - besides it is toooooooo much pressure on a young blokes like Pocock or Genia - we want them to play the game as well as they can without the distraction of captaincy. So Sharpie is the go

Lots of losing experience is not necessarily something I want in a Captain.

 

[TheTruth]

Lots of losing experience is not necessarily something I want in a Captain.

Yeah understand that but who would then have the best winning experience or stats - ffffinger, slipper, simmonds etc - surely cannot pick on that alone - The Wallabys have had a bad run for many reasons over past seasons and everyone in the team has contributed to those performances

 

[Ruggo]

I would actually like to know why people would want to choose Pocock?

Based on what qualities and experience as a captain?

Or is it a typical case of great player so make him captain?

Real question. Not a dig at Pocock. I've heard commentators talking about him being touted as a future Wallaby captain. Based on what credentials?

He is reasonably well spoken in interviews but that is hardly a measure.

Leads from the front and commands respect. That is why I think he should be tried in a captaincy role but not jump straight in as the Wallaby captain. The Force need to begin planning for life after Sharpe and I think that is where he should get the opportunity.

 

[Brumbieman]

Yeah understand that but who would then have the best winning experience or stats - ffffinger, slipper, simmonds etc - surely cannot pick on that alone - The Wallabys have had a bad run for many reasons over past seasons and everyone in the team has contributed to those performances

Not entirely no, but Sharpe is not a winner.

The Captain should be someone who is a genuine leader. EG at the Brumbies, we have plenty of senior players who can captain the side, but they're nto leaders. They're picked because they have lots of experience and are older. That doesn't necessarily make them a good leader.

 

[daz]

Not entirely no, but Sharpe is not a winner.

The Captain should be someone who is a genuine leader. EG at the Brumbies, we have plenty of senior players who can captain the side, but they're nto leaders. They're picked because they have lots of experience and are older. That doesn't necessarily make them a good leader.

Absolute claptrap. Sorry, but anyone who feels Sharpie is not a winner or a leader of men is at best fooling themselves and at worst, a one-eyed blind Freddy (see, I can be polite..!).

Yes, the Force are struggling. That has little to do with Sharpe's contributions. The man is a warrior and the pain of having to front the camera after each lost game is clearly visible. He never has a go at the ref or the opposition as a blame strategy. He acknowledges the cause as his team not being good enough.

When the Force win, he is gracious. He does not seek personal recognition and in fact goes out of his way to make sure his team/support staff/supporters are recognised.

He is not a bully boy with the refs, although that does not mean he doesn't seek clarification when a decision goes against him. If an opposition player fronts up out of line or tempers fray, Sharpe is there.

When he talks, his boys listen. He is passionate, hard working and still one of the premier locks in the country, if not the world.


I could care less what happens at the Force, or indeed any province that is not Queensland, but I tell you what, if I had to pick a Wallaby side for the RWC11 right now, Sharpe would be captain.

 

[HG]

Sharpie for captain, Rocky may not even make the side the way he is going anyway, and if not Sharpie then Horwill should captain the side.

 

[Brumbieman]

Absolute claptrap. Sorry, but anyone who feels Sharpie is not a winner or a leader of men is at best fooling themselves and at worst, a one-eyed blind Freddy (see, I can be polite..!).

Yes, the Force are struggling. That has little to do with Sharpe's contributions. The man is a warrior and the pain of having to front the camera after each lost game is clearly visible. He never has a go at the ref or the opposition as a blame strategy. He acknowledges the cause as his team not being good enough.

When the Force win, he is gracious. He does not seek personal recognition and in fact goes out of his way to make sure his team/support staff/supporters are recognised.

He is not a bully boy with the refs, although that does not mean he doesn't seek clarification when a decision goes against him. If an opposition player fronts up out of line or tempers fray, Sharpe is there.

When he talks, his boys listen. He is passionate, hard working and still one of the premier locks in the country, if not the world.


I could care less what happens at the Force, or indeed any province that is not Queensland, but I tell you what, if I had to pick a Wallaby side for the RWC11 right now, Sharpe would be captain.

I'm not denying his commitment for a good 70mins of each game.

 

[hench]

Following on from the Wallaby announcement thread, and the article Blue posted stating that Rocky may not play a game of Super Rugby this year, if Rocky didn't, could he be fit in time to play the Bledisloe and 3N?

And secondly, if he wasn't fit, who would you want to see captain the Wallabies?

I would like to see Sharpe in the roll, he has the experience and will be picked in the run on team.

I would say Genia or Horwill.

But that's biased apparently.

 

[daz]

I'm not denying his commitment for a good 70mins of each game.

Is that it? From all the points I made, the best you have is he runs out of steam after 70 minutes?

So what is your definition of a leader and/or winner, in a Wallaby captain context?

 

[Sully]

He is also equal first on most Super rugby game loses.

 

[daz]

More than likely the outright leader of that stat after this weekend.

But saying Sharpe shouldn't be captain because he lost more Super games than anyone else is like saying Gregan was made captain because he is the most capped Super player.

I'm not sure of the relevance of your point, Sully. Or more specifically, I don't understand your point.

 

[Ash]

I would say Genia or Horwill.

But that's biased apparently.

Obviously, with you being a Force fan? (Unless I am mistaken...)

 

[ChargerWA]

He is also equal first on most Super rugby game loses.

And outright leader for most rugby caps of any super player, statistically he is the most likey to be leading the most losses column as well.

Losses per numbers of game played would be a more relevant indidcator.

 

[Gagger]

I would actually like to know why people would want to choose Pocock?

Based on what qualities and experience as a captain?

Or is it a typical case of great player so make him captain?

Real question. Not a dig at Pocock. I've heard commentators talking about him being touted as a future Wallaby captain. Based on what credentials?

He is reasonably well spoken in interviews but that is hardly a measure.

Watching the Wallaby games last year, he seemed to be the first guy talking in the huddle, with everyone listening.

From his ARU profile:

Pocock’s childhood hero was the ex-Springbok skipper Bob Skinstad, who he met for the first time prior to the 2009 Brisbane Test where Pocock starred in Australia’s 21-6 win over the world and Tri Nations champions South Africa. Pocock has shown many similar traits to Skinstad: he was also ear-marked as a leader at an early age, twice leading sides to Britain in 2008; firstly with the Australian team for the Under-20 World Cup, and then with a Western Force Development squad that also included another future Wallaby in O’Connor