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Who would be Wallaby captain for RWC if Rocky isn't fit?
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players I assume you mean?
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
No...international halfbacks.....maybe I have been expecting too much from him?
Before the first couple of AB/WB Tests last year there was a heap of talk about how dangerous Genia was....I didn't really see any 'danger' from him the whole of the Test calendar
ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
It's like a knife in the guts, but it makes a horrible amount of sense. Berrick is going to have to come back and not be fragile to keep him on the bench. Just so long as he is not captain.
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
Yeah, 2nd year and I think the hand injury affected him badly last season. He also seemed to play his best games against the Boks but didn't stamp much authority against the ABs.
Sanchez is playing well at the moment though. Definitely quicker ball that he was providing near the start of the season.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Giteau has been better than Barnes this year in playing at 12...
And this week Giteau has actually been named at 12... not just 10 playing at 12... but he's actually going to wear the 12 jersey!
Hopefully this doesn't affect his game... maybe letting him believe he was in control but actually playing at 12 made him play better?
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
In the second season, I agree. But in his first he was class. I recall a man-of-the-match performance against England in 2009, as well as very good performances in the 3N that year. The bloke is clearly good at test level, certainly in comparison to the other Aussie halfbacks and, I would add, in comparison to other 3N players too. I would take him over anyone in NZ at present, as well as most in RSA.
Richo
John Thornett (49)
I'd agree re JOC (James O'Connor) but with Mitchell out I reckon he's a dead cert for the wing.
Btw, I don't think anyone contests that -- if fit -- Horwill is a certain selection for the Wallabies. That said, Sharpe would unquestionably be the first lock selected and that fitness factor is CRUCIAL in choosing a captain for the national side. Queensland gets away with it because Genia can step in, but the Wobs aren't the Reds and continuity is harder to maintain and thus even more important.
Viking
Mark Ella (57)
Im thinking Sharpe for RWC, but definitly not a long term solution. He deserves to get a few caps as captain and he has the ability to be a great captain. So if Rocky is out give Sharpe captain for RWC and post RWC give it to Pocock! Pocock is going to be a great captain, last years spring tour and tri-nations he seemed to be doing a lot of talking to other players, and he seems to address ref's pretty well too. He'll be the new McCaw without a doubt.
Reddy!
Bob Davidson (42)
Yeh Sharpe for sure - he hasn't been in and out of the team in the past 18months like Horwill has been with injury. He knows the ropes, offers a sense of stability to the players, oldest player in the side you would imagine and most experienced, and is currently a world class lock. Makes sense really.
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daz
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Ok. Captain Sharpe in NZ 2011 it is. Who is going to make the phone call to Deans to let him know what we decided, or should we just email him the link to this thread?
Brumbieman
Dick Tooth (41)
Hang on, are people seriously considering naming Sharpe captain? And therefore ensuring he has to stay ont he field in the dying minute of any pressure match?
Because fuck me, we're really scraping the bottom of the barrel if Sharpe is the man to lead us in a brutal shitfight against England or the All Blacks. If he was in the Army he's be constantly under arrest for being AWOL.
Pocock and Genia are the only options, because both are actual leaders, rather than being named as a leader because they're older and more experienced. Pocock is the on field captain anyway, everytime there's a break in play its HIM who has everyone gathered around and listening to the plan. Those two are our long term Captain/VC, we just need to work out who is going to take the full captaincy.
RE this year, its tough, because you don't want to elect a new Captain now. But Sharpe isn't the man. Why don't we get Waugh back as VC and go for the truly 'I'll give us the lead until 70mins and then give up because its too hard" style leadership group.
Because fuck me, we're really scraping the bottom of the barrel if Sharpe is the man to lead us in a brutal shitfight against England or the All Blacks. If he was in the Army he's be constantly under arrest for being AWOL.
Pocock and Genia are the only options, because both are actual leaders, rather than being named as a leader because they're older and more experienced. Pocock is the on field captain anyway, everytime there's a break in play its HIM who has everyone gathered around and listening to the plan. Those two are our long term Captain/VC, we just need to work out who is going to take the full captaincy.
RE this year, its tough, because you don't want to elect a new Captain now. But Sharpe isn't the man. Why don't we get Waugh back as VC and go for the truly 'I'll give us the lead until 70mins and then give up because its too hard" style leadership group.
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Richard D. James
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Who are the 4 or 5 halfbacks better than Genia?
FDP, yes. Maybe not at the moment but overall, yes.
Youngs? Had a great first year (like Genia) but turned to shit by the end of the 6N
Piri? Don't think he has the consistency that Genia does
Cowan? Maybe, I've always rated Cowan but still think Genia has a better range of skills.
FDP, yes. Maybe not at the moment but overall, yes.
Youngs? Had a great first year (like Genia) but turned to shit by the end of the 6N
Piri? Don't think he has the consistency that Genia does
Cowan? Maybe, I've always rated Cowan but still think Genia has a better range of skills.
Brumbieman
Dick Tooth (41)
Precisely.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
I'd take Weepu and Cowan on their international form before I took Genia. I'm admittedly biased but I don't think there's a lot of arguement that he was hardly the 'danger' he was talked up to be last year.
That may well change this year but I'd personally want to see it before making him the Captain of my international team in a RWC year.
Of course it's not my team
Yeah I don't think you could make Genia captain in a RWC. It's too much pressure for a young bloke, and it would adversely affect his performance.
Genia suffered a bit of second year syndrome last season, he was also carrying injury which didn't help. I would say Bullrush that he has been easily the best 9 in the Super 15 this year. Only one who comes close is Sarel Pretorius, and maybe Alby Mathewson.
Genia suffered a bit of second year syndrome last season, he was also carrying injury which didn't help. I would say Bullrush that he has been easily the best 9 in the Super 15 this year. Only one who comes close is Sarel Pretorius, and maybe Alby Mathewson.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
Yeah, I'd probably agree with that. Would you have said the same thing last year though? Because if you would have, then that sizzling form didn't translate into the Tests....I'd agree though that the injury probably held him back more than he publicly admitted so who knows??
The June Tests will be very interesting....can't wait!!
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