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What, abject failures? Deans has done the grand sum total of NOTHING as an international head coach as yet, except prove that an inability to change game plans to suit the cattle, or reshuffle his prize cattle to suit game plans, does not work in the big pond like it did in Super rugby.TOCC said:
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Scorz said:
Scarfman said:
Reckon last 2 comments of Scarfman and Scorz just hit the nail right on the head
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Scorz said:
Really? He created a game plan to beat south africa this year - that was something that Henry, Laurel and Hardy couldn't do this year...
As for "shuffling" his cattle - he has made some hard decisions in terms of players and has dropped some older players to introduce some very young test players this year. It is pretty obvious (as it was at the time he was appointed) that the main goal is the 2011 world cup. Sure the results haven't been great but the wallabies are better placed for that goal now than they were this time last year and much better placed than when he took over.
Funnily enough, even some of Australian rugby's staunchest critics from up here are starting to like what they're seeing (albeit just from the EOYT).
Key indicator for me as to whether we're headed in the right direction is whether they put enough focus on fixing the lineout.
Key indicator for me as to whether we're headed in the right direction is whether they put enough focus on fixing the lineout.
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eddie jones was a sort after coach following the Wallabies and the Reds...Scorz said:
there is a international market for any sort of coach..
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A mate of mine had a meal with Deans the other day, through a mutual friend or something. Apparently he is very upbeat about the World Cup prospects- thinks he has done away with the dead wood, and only wants a couple of second rowers and then thinks we will be fine. Am inclined to agree, think the bones of the RWC team are now there.
I do think we should be winning more games along the way, regardless of the impending RWC. 7 consecutive losses to the ABs just isn't good enough.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
Fair comment on the 2nd rowers but I still think we need more depth @ 12 & 15.
10/12 We have Giteau, Barnes & Cooper which is probably good enough 1 more would be better that way we won't see AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) or Mortlock moving in at 12 anytime soon.
15. We have AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) & who? "JOC (James O'Connor), Drew Mitchell & Lachie Turner" all part timers who are better on the wing or at a hair salon selling product.
I'm hoping for a big year from Cameron Shepherd to fill the void left behind by Latho, he's got a big boot in general play, good under the high ball & is also a very good goalkicker.
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Well we should hopefully see some of those 'part-time' fullbacks turn into fulltime fullbacks in the 2010 S14 season, NSW have mentioned Beale, but im not entirely convinced, i think Turner has the goods to fill the long time fullback position. Maybe Anesi and Mitchell on the wings wither Turner at fullback.disco said:
QLD, well QLD is in the worst spot of them all, only one player is recognised as a 'fulback' on there player list, and thats the enigmatic Rodney Davies, Im actually quite fond of moving Anthony Fainga'a to fullback, his got a good kicking game and apparently has some rugby smarts about him, not to mention his a very good defender.
ACT, another one, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) is a obvious standout but Lealifano has actually been playing some games at fullback, his got a good boot on him and good vision, could turn out well.
WA, Shepherd is the obvious candidate, and i really hope to see him play well and injury free in 2010.
barbarian said:
In addition to a few pieces of tall timber (they don't grow on trees, you know) Deans still has a lot of work to do in the backs. If only Shepherd would realise his potential, and stay injury-free, a lot of pieces in the jigsaw from 10 to 15 would fall into place. But finding/making a serviceable fullback is imperative. And who plays inside-centre's pretty important, too.
Lindommer said:
Agree about the need for Shepherd. Maybe he should take a few pages from the Shane Watson handbook and start doing Pilates and Yoga to stave off constant injury? Can't remember the last time he got through a full season, got to be depressing for the bloke frankly.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
Luke Morahan has been mentioned as a fullback for the Reds this year it's a shame we lost McLinden as he was a brilliant counter attacking fullback.
Outside centre is pretty well covered by Mortlock, Digby, Cross & AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) plus you could add in Horne if he get's his hammy right.
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Michael Lynagh (62)
Word coming from the Force is that JO'C will be fullback. Why? Who knows, he's far and away their best 12, and I would think a fully fit Shepherd is a better fullback.
So I guess that Shepherd will be on the wing, at least at the start of the S14 season. This may make it harder for him to remake the Wallaby squad as a fullback. And...I really hope that JO'C remakes the Wallaby squad mainly as a 12, and not a 15.
So I guess that Shepherd will be on the wing, at least at the start of the S14 season. This may make it harder for him to remake the Wallaby squad as a fullback. And...I really hope that JO'C remakes the Wallaby squad mainly as a 12, and not a 15.
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Greg Davis (50)
someone closer to the force or shep might be able to answer this, but ive heard some rumours floating around that even with his foot/leg fully repaired, he wont be able to kick much due to a risk of reinguring due to his kicking style, so the move to the wing is to protect him from having to do so to often.
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Believe Morahan trained at fullback today - he has size, speed and skills to go all the way at 15disco said:
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