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Where to for Twiggy Rugby?

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Rugbynutter39

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Michael Lynagh (62)
daz said:
Which, if the newspapers are correct, means that Twiggy gets to reshape the current NRC model into an Indo-Pac comp from 2018-2020, when the ARU and Twiggy's team sits down and decides what Super Rugby post-2020 might potentially look like.

It just means that the Force will exist in a second tier NRC-type comp for 2 years, until the current broadcast deal ends. All things considered, that is not the worst outcome for the Force.

I can just about say with confidence, that if the Rebels had folded there would have been no white knight to make that kind of deal on behalf of Vic Rugby. I suspect the Melbourne Rising competing in Twiggy's new league would have probably been the end game for us.
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Given there already was a commitment by the ARU for the Spirit to remain in the NRC it seems this is only a marginal improvement for WA Rugby and the Force...Guess we got to see the detail. But one would assume if TF going to fund something to replace the NRC which provides a development pathway to the ARU at minimal cost then TF has some negotiating power to ensure WA looked after in the future if not immediately. No point speculating as really have no idea of what could transpire here.
 
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George Smith (75)
^^^^^^^^ Google "MINING BILLIONAIRE ANDREW FORREST TALKING TO ARU ABOUT REPLACING NRC WITH A NEW COMPETITION" to evade the paywall. Looks promising, it'll be interesting to see what gets announced on Wednesday.
 
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barbarian said:
Looks like the best case scenario is inching closer....

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...n/news-story/786d68d4c16bea4927c61bf8ad9755ea
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The thing I don't like about this is that is allows the ARU to get away scot-free from both their responsibility from the Force & the NRC.

WA still will not have a top tier team while NSW, QLD, ACT & Victoria will come along for the ride despite giving up nothing for the privilege. There is zero downside here for any of the other states, hell, Victoria once again get a free ride stripping the Force's players and potentially coaches.

All the while the ARU watch someone else do their work for them while they funnel money into a dying comp waiting for when they can once again pick the fruits of someone elses labour.

So as Force fans we are expected to sit back and wait three years for the other franchises and the ARU to see out the broadcast deal and then let them in with open arms. Bugger that.

This is only the best case scenario for those in the East. We still have a team cut from the top tier of rugby based on lies and corruption.
 
Rugbynutter39

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Michael Lynagh (62)
daz said:
Sorry, but that is funny. No point speculating? If that was the case, the only thing left on the internet would be porn and cat meme's.
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Well until I read another press article based on rumour, innuendo and unsubstantiated speculation so I can speculate further!
 
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Cyril Towers (30)
BLR said:
The thing I don't like about this is that is allows the ARU to get away scot-free from both their responsibility from the Force & the NRC.

WA still will not have a top tier team while NSW, QLD, ACT & Victoria will come along for the ride despite giving up nothing for the privilege. There is zero downside here for any of the other states, hell, Victoria once again get a free ride stripping the Force's players and potentially coaches.

All the while the ARU watch someone else do their work for them while they funnel money into a dying comp waiting for when they can once again pick the fruits of someone elses labour.

So as Force fans we are expected to sit back and wait three years for the other franchises and the ARU to see out the broadcast deal and then let them in with open arms. Bugger that.

This is only the best case scenario for those in the East. We still have a team cut from the top tier of rugby based on lies and corruption.
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TF won't allow RWA to get fooled again. We currently have all the money, with patience we will have the power too. There can be no other outcome when dealing with a pauper. Once that is in place all Aus rugby will be better off and given time TF will transfer the power to a truly independent authority.
 
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Ted Thorn (20)
Rugbynutter39 said:
No point speculating as really have no idea of what could transpire here.
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Where's the fun in that? Twiggy to introduce new 12-team comp featuring teams from Australia, New Zealand, China and the former Soviet states. Tries to be worth eight points, conversions four and the mercy rule to be applied once either team scores fifty. The tournament winner takes home a cash prize of $10m and the player of the tournament wins a trip on Elon Musk's Mars shuttle. You heard it here first.
 
Rugbynutter39

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Michael Lynagh (62)
Good outcome - NRC has struggled due to in part lack of funding so TF creating a new well funded competition to replace it so can access Oz players for this good thing. Seems like some current NRC teams will remain but some will probably fall by the wayside. Latter ok too as I supported the Stars but accepted had too many NSW teams and they were weakest in terms of support to cut.

I am sure there is a bigger game plan for WA rugby behind this - and if TF pouring money into this new comp to replace the NRC - bit like the pied piper and he who pays calls the shots...

Looking forward to seeing details announced Wednesday but sounds like discussions with ARU gone well on this to be ready to announce something on Wednesday.
 
Aurelius

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Ted Thorn (20)
Rugbynutter39 said:
I am sure there is a bigger game plan for WA rugby behind this - and if TF pouring money into this new comp to replace the NRC - bit like the pied piper and he who pays calls the shots.
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God, I hope so. From what's been talked about so far, it sounds like the plan is basically to replace the Spirit in the NRC with the Force, bring a couple of Asian teams in and make us fans out West wait until everyone else has finished playing before we finally get to have our fun.
 
Rugbynutter39

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Michael Lynagh (62)
Aurelius said:
God, I hope so. From what's been talked about so far, it sounds like the plan is basically to replace the Spirit in the NRC with the Force, bring a couple of Asian teams in and make us fans out West wait until everyone else has finished playing before we finally get to have our fun.
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In fairness this is probably why TF fought so hard to keep Force in Super Rugby as hard to replace with long form competition straight away so perhaps plan B is better NRC product with much greater investment with plans to make it long form once a) prove successful and b ) Super Rugby broadcast deal out of the way post 2020. Look I know WA would like a long form comp straight away available to them but perhaps TF himself realising that this would be bridge too far and this is a plan b that with time can be positioned for a plan a and he will be there to ensure it happens. I am assuming if he puts finance into this replacement NRC it would be with proviso's with the ARU that there is a WA side in post 2020 competition and whatever form that takes. And maybe by better NRC comp looking to create better pathways so more professionals to feed those teams (and maybe some further grass roots funding still planned). All speculation but of course TF's first interest would be WA rugby but being part of competition with other oz rugby sides got to be best long term option as Super Rugby already told us that!
 
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Aurelius said:
God, I hope so. From what's been talked about so far, it sounds like the plan is basically to replace the Spirit in the NRC with the Force, bring a couple of Asian teams in and make us fans out West wait until everyone else has finished playing before we finally get to have our fun.
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This is so far off the mark that you can "bet London to a brick" that it's nothing like what Twiggy has planned.

The NRC is the ARU's baby.
The ARU has to put some effort into it to make it work.
 
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ForceFan said:
This is so far off the mark that you can "bet London to a brick" that it's nothing like what Twiggy has planned.

The NRC is the ARU's baby.
The ARU has to put some effort into it to make it work.
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Well they originally told RugbyWA the Spirit came under the so called Alliance Agreement therefore would be cut after this season. Maybe what they actually meant is they were planning to cut the whole comp. And this just gives them the easy way out by offloading it while riding off into the sunset yelling suckers!
 
Rugbynutter39

Rugbynutter39

Michael Lynagh (62)
ForceFan said:
This is so far off the mark that you can "bet London to a brick" that it's nothing like what Twiggy has planned.

The NRC is the ARU's baby.
The ARU has to put some effort into it to make it work.
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Force fan I think that is it we don't really know what twiggy and co has planned. but reality is even he has limits as launching a new rugby competition which includes Pi and Asian teams far from easy so maybe ARU come to the party to make something more achievable for him in making available bigger pool of oz players and hence better standard of competition for the force. Also logistically would be better as otherwise force flying all over the world to play teams.


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Dick Tooth (41)
My TF song for the day is.

The Sky is Crying. Its for the injustice done to the Force.

 
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