Where to for Super Rugby?
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David Wilson (68)
Thanks to Blue on "Aussie bubble"
SPOTLIGHT: New Zealand Rugby have reportedly been caught in a web of lies as the truth around the Rugby Championship schedule surfaces.
https://rugby365.com/countries/argentina/report-bizarre-twist-in-nzs-scheduling-row/
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Reading on the roar a version of how trans tasman competition could work.
Have first part pure domestic where 6 teams in each competition play each other home and away. At end of that winner is who is top like what super rugby nz competition had. Then have top 3 of each competition play in trans tasman gold cup and bottom 3 playoff for trans Tasman plate cup.
Ia this practical or desirable...why not just go full TT from beginning. I think I may have answered my own question.
Have first part pure domestic where 6 teams in each competition play each other home and away. At end of that winner is who is top like what super rugby nz competition had. Then have top 3 of each competition play in trans tasman gold cup and bottom 3 playoff for trans Tasman plate cup.
Ia this practical or desirable...why not just go full TT from beginning. I think I may have answered my own question.
Jimmy_Crouch
Peter Johnson (47)
Really like this idea. Less negativity of getting smashed by kiwis each week.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
I think this is what is the attraction and creates more local derbies, lower travel costs etc. so in reality a conference style competition with playoffs but keeps everyone involved, generating dollars etc and keeping all fans engaged. And as you say allows for oz and nz conference winners to be awarded and then TT gold and plate cup winners.
What I like about this is it means we always have oz conference winner that can win something.
Plus if you think about it you could launch this next year where If covid still a problem you have each of the gold and plate sides go into a bubble to play a knockout style series sevens style ie rankings 1-6
Jimmy_Crouch
Peter Johnson (47)
I'd be keen to see two trophies. Winner and also one similar to the Bunter Bowl/Ranfurly Shield whereby it is up for grabs at every home game for the holder (no other rules).
dru
David Wilson (68)
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Something tells me it might be time for the movers and shakers at NZR HQ to enrol themselves in a course: Diplomacy for beginners. It would be a good starting point.
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The first is this leaves New Zealand fully committed to trans-Tasman Super Rugby. That means they had better start regarding the Australians as full partners, and not subservient additions who should count themselves lucky to feed on a few crumbs from the table. Hopefully chairman Brent Impey gets that memo.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
I think the need for enrolling in the course for diplomacy is reflected in their response to RC schedule release within 7 minutes.
Obviously not learnt diplomacy 101 is not to shoot off that knee jerk email but rather draft and review and send it out 24 hours later (and if they did they might have referred to and referenced the SANZAAR minutes on what was agreed and signed off on which they also sit on!)
Obviously not learnt diplomacy 101 is not to shoot off that knee jerk email but rather draft and review and send it out 24 hours later (and if they did they might have referred to and referenced the SANZAAR minutes on what was agreed and signed off on which they also sit on!)
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
But the All Blacks are the biggest brand in rugby. They can do whatever they like.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
After a decade of saying the Force aren't good enough and they need to be cut, now they are an option to add to SRAo along with such prestigious rugby powerhouses as Fiji Drua and the China Lions.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12369614
You can't make this shit up.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12369614
You can't make this shit up.
Bandar
Bob Loudon (25)
Without knowing I assume the 8 respondents with an EOI in SRA would be the 5 existing with Moana Pasifika and Kanaloa Hawaii along with the South China Lions-BOP bid. I have read elsewhere that none of the 5 Australian teams entered a bid so doubt the Force would be included.
RA should sign up the Drua straight away for SRAu next year assuming we can travel, if not base them in Australia for the season.
Other than trying to poach teams that have been playing in Australian competitions I quite like the idea of playing SRA & SRAu separately followed by a Pacific Championship (either just TT or with Japan and SLAR)
RA should sign up the Drua straight away for SRAu next year assuming we can travel, if not base them in Australia for the season.
Other than trying to poach teams that have been playing in Australian competitions I quite like the idea of playing SRA & SRAu separately followed by a Pacific Championship (either just TT or with Japan and SLAR)
KevinO
Geoff Shaw (53)
Posted this in GRR but appropriate here to.
NZ rugby worried about the quality of Australian sides, think 4-5 is too much.
Than chooses to merger with a comp that the winning side could not win a game against the sides NZ is worried about not having the quality.
NZ rugby is doing a good job and making promises they can't keep and getting on the wrong side of there fans.
1st is was the 2003 RWC, next was the Rugby championship being completely on kiwi soil and than they add some teams from a second teir comp because they offerened the ARU.
But hey, it's NZ. They will blame the ARU for everything like always.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Love Fiji drua to be in our competition but that would require financial backing behind them...if have a consortium prepared to fund them like the Pacifica then absolutely. I think commercially a side based out of Suva is not viable hence the Pacifica proposal for Pi team based out of Auckland
Rebels3
Jim Lenehan (48)
Could you just imagine the backlash if we ended up with the Fijian team and they ended up with nothing. It’d be hilarious to see the outcry
KevinO
Geoff Shaw (53)
Fijian loyalty should be towards the ARU, invited to play in the NRC. Not like NZR invited them into the ITM cup.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
If all the Fiji Drua need to be able to do is travel to the east coast they probably won't cost a lot.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
What I don’t understand is NZRU’s complete lack of accountability for the rapid demise of relationships with key partners due to their inept handing of various events and matters. It continues to be everyone else’s fault.
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