New Zealand rugby is essentially run in the same way, but with more head office control
Where to for Super Rugby?
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New Zealand rugby is essentially run in the same way, but with more head office control
Killer
Cyril Towers (30)
Yes I agree super rugby is dying soon to be dead.
Should wind up this thread, the answer to "where to for Super Rugby" is solved!
nah. We can get another 5000 comments out of the high court appeal alone
After the announcement that he's starting a new comp, surely the best move now is to cease the legal action and move on.
The longer he holds off, the less chance he has of retaining the Force's best players.
Killer
Cyril Towers (30)
Not while Clyne is still there, and maybe a few others.
He will have no problem keeping most players, so much blue sky, and the demand to get in will probably be huge.
450m annual dividend V broke in 2019, I know where I would be staying, loyalty begets loyalty begets loyalty.
MarkJ
Bob Loudon (25)
One assumes Twiggy has other expenses that might chew up some of his money.
And what happens when the iron price drops?
Killer
Cyril Towers (30)
yes and it will drop, so what maybe 200m?
TF will make this comp pay its way before the ARU ever runs a profit, they are dead in the water.
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
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Dick Tooth (41)
A claim of many on this site and people in official positions in Australia is how important the international aspects of rugby is.
However the line taken with this international rugby's importance suffers the same illusion and way-would thinking as has plagued rugby's adminstration for decardes.
Like when we were riding high in the late 90's and to say 2006, no one said some key reasons are a Super League war, Soccer Australia bankrupt and corrupt, and the AFL recovering from a late 80's to the late 90's poor by their standards admin.
What screams off the page to me as we sat by and watched other codes increase their teams and build national domestic competitions. Today we are sitting by thinking all is well and good because of the international game.
Knock knock, as rugby expands and grows world wide, Australia is becoming far less important than we once were. Meaning sooner or latter no will give a flying F about Australia as they have grown and our influence becomes less.
Essentially many rugby folk totally over estimated our importance in the grand scheme of the rugby world.
However the line taken with this international rugby's importance suffers the same illusion and way-would thinking as has plagued rugby's adminstration for decardes.
Like when we were riding high in the late 90's and to say 2006, no one said some key reasons are a Super League war, Soccer Australia bankrupt and corrupt, and the AFL recovering from a late 80's to the late 90's poor by their standards admin.
What screams off the page to me as we sat by and watched other codes increase their teams and build national domestic competitions. Today we are sitting by thinking all is well and good because of the international game.
Knock knock, as rugby expands and grows world wide, Australia is becoming far less important than we once were. Meaning sooner or latter no will give a flying F about Australia as they have grown and our influence becomes less.
Essentially many rugby folk totally over estimated our importance in the grand scheme of the rugby world.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
I dunno about that half. I doubt we'll make less money from internationals now that there is more money coming from other places. If anything, the more competition there is the more exciting games there are to be played at an international level.
Certainly agree that the focus on Internationals first is the wrong model though.
Certainly agree that the focus on Internationals first is the wrong model though.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Used to, now we have big bash, IPL etc which are threatening to derail test matches.
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Dick Tooth (41)
Its not about money, you totally miss read the meaning of my post.
I am saying many in rugby say the game in Australia will be saved as it is an international game and we are an important part of that.
I am saying as rugby grows internationally, Australia becomes a smaller player than it is now. Meaning the world wide growth in rugby will not help us if anything make Australia less important in the grand scheme of things.
Killer
Cyril Towers (30)
The majority of the earnings still come from the national team. In fact the earnings it generates have never been higher.
I think the relevance is that the global market is relevant to the product we have to sell. Growth in the game internationally means broadcast rights are more valuable and the contribution from countries outside Australia (and the same applies for every country) becomes more important in terms of their overall revenue.
I agree with you that the product we are trying to sell has to be compelling and Super Rugby has become increasingly less so.
If we had a strong Trans Tasman competition that attracted good crowds here and in New Zealand it would be highly valuable internationally.
Killer
Cyril Towers (30)
Maybe it's just me but I have always found the games v NZ teams a bit boring.
The SA games were better far more interesting.
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I suspect as soon as the Force announce they are ceasing legal action, the ARU will release all current Force players and staff, and wind up the club. Then the other Super Rugby clubs will start the announcements of those Force players who signed letters of intent months ago.
They may possibly do it sooner if the Force do not apply for another injunction, regardless of any potential legal proceedings.
Then we will see who signs for other clubs, and who is going to hang around waiting for this supposed new comp. I guess AF will need to start paying the salaries of players who elect to stay behind soon?
The ARU has guaranteed all the contracts.
I would have thought that a further injunction would be unlikely and launching another appeal won't dissuade the players from sorting out their future.
If Forrest is wanting to retain players I would have thought time is of the essence, particularly for those who will be most in demand.
swingpass
Peter Sullivan (51)
the Force players and coaching staff are all contracted to their current boss, the ARU, so they will go where told, within reason or have their contracts paid out and are then free to pursue other avenues for an income, eg Twiggy comp, Japan, selling newspapers, whatever. those on ARU top ups (are there any ?) will presumably toe the line and finish up at The Rebels, Tahs, wherever. i think this will happen quickly.
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